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Message Subject: Tying Heavy Fluorocarbon
B.A.Muskie
Posted 4/13/2008 12:39 PM (#313111)
Subject: Tying Heavy Fluorocarbon




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Location: Tallmadge, Ohio
Im having some trouble tieing 100lb flourocarbon, it seems like every knot i tie wont cinch enough and just comes unraveled. The stuff just seems so thick...What knot do i tie?
Plunker
Posted 4/13/2008 4:39 PM (#313145 - in reply to #313111)
Subject: RE: Tieing Heavy Fluorocarbon




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Double barrel crimp and a good crimping pliers.
Ben Kueng
Posted 4/13/2008 7:05 PM (#313167 - in reply to #313111)
Subject: Re: Tieing Heavy Fluorocarbon





Posts: 227


Location: Southeast Wisconsin
Im not a big fan of crimping flouro due to the fact that the crimp sometimes slip. All I use for my leaders and QS rigs is 120 lb flouro, which I tie with a Uni-knot..You only have to wrap it 3 times. First I tie on the barrel swivel. I than grab the BS with a split ring pliers and wrap the other end around my hand and pull. After you crimp on the snap you can grab boath ends with pliers and cinch them tight..The nice thing about tying with a Uni-knot is that any pressure only causes it to cinch tighter rather than slip..
Perfect Drift
Posted 4/13/2008 7:31 PM (#313172 - in reply to #313111)
Subject: RE: Tieing Heavy Fluorocarbon




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Hey I like this thread ,I down sized line to 80# and the Knot werks ..I pull it to gether with w-d40 ,2 pliers and 1 eylet tied to the garage..Butt thats fer trollin an stuff..
Cutt'em all Jack
Posted 4/13/2008 10:48 PM (#313210 - in reply to #313111)
Subject: RE: Tieing Heavy Fluorocarbon





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Location: Slippery Rock, PA
This is the knot that I use. I use 100lb. fluoro and this knot works very well.

http://www.thenextbitetv.com/images/site_images/lees_leader_knot.pd...
Bawber
Posted 4/14/2008 12:00 AM (#313217 - in reply to #313111)
Subject: RE: Tieing Heavy Fluorocarbon


Perfection loop knot....google it, cinch it tight, won't come undone ever and it makes nice even loops, I do it with 150# Seaguar Premier fluoro, works perfectly. Crimps can slip, tie instead.
adudeuknow
Posted 4/14/2008 4:43 AM (#313221 - in reply to #313111)
Subject: Re: Tieing Heavy Fluorocarbon





Posts: 214


Location: Beaver County, Pennsylvania
i don't use flouro but was wondering if a palomar would cinch of be practical...
Guest
Posted 4/14/2008 6:58 AM (#313223 - in reply to #313111)
Subject: RE: Tieing Heavy Fluorocarbon


I wouldn't suggest using 80 pound test or you will break it.

Also I wouldn't suggest using crimps either.

Use 130, 150, 180 or 200 pound flouro if you want to be safe.
tcbetka
Posted 4/14/2008 7:09 AM (#313225 - in reply to #313111)
Subject: RE: Tieing Heavy Fluorocarbon




Location: Green Bay, WI
I agree with Plunker--a good double-barrel crimp, with flared ends, is the safest way to go once you get to 100# or more IMO. I have crimped and tested several of them and haven't seen any slippage at all, although I use two crimps on each end. But you *must* use a crimping tool that leaves a flare in the ends of the collar.

If you use the proper collars, sized correctly, and crimp them with the correct tool...it doesn't get any better. Thousands of aircraft have been flying around for years and years with control cables crimped using double-barred cable collars. They are perfectly safe and are at least as strong as the cable itself. I have seen an aircraft with a control cable tied...

TB

Edited by tcbetka 4/14/2008 7:11 AM
B.A.Muskie
Posted 4/14/2008 9:39 AM (#313243 - in reply to #313111)
Subject: RE: Tying Heavy Fluorocarbon




Posts: 25


Location: Tallmadge, Ohio
heys guys thanks for the input, the knots you guys told me about seem better that what i was tying. I think im going to tie and crimp eversince i just ordered some crimps.........
Thanks for the help
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