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Yake Bait
Posted 12/11/2007 6:20 AM (#288547 - in reply to #287289)
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This is my first batch. Although the photo looks kind of green, the top one is black and silver blades with pearl / holo black flashabou. I do fish the Chip a few times a year. Thinking about making a holo green / holo black / chartruse one with chartruse and black blades for the chip.
needa70lber
Posted 12/11/2007 4:18 PM (#288641 - in reply to #288547)
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
sounds good to me, I'm going to make some flashabou baits too for next season
needa70lber
Posted 1/12/2008 7:45 PM (#293687 - in reply to #288641)
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
Some more baits I can't wait to try!


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ron f
Posted 1/12/2008 11:28 PM (#293714 - in reply to #287289)
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Edited by ron f 1/12/2008 11:33 PM
muskellunged
Posted 1/14/2008 9:46 AM (#293960 - in reply to #287289)
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Location: Illinois
Sweet work fellas! Those things should be hanging on my bait box! Good luck and keep it up!
Mike W.
lambeau
Posted 1/20/2008 2:01 PM (#295136 - in reply to #293960)
Subject: Re: new bucktail project


i finally got enough "practice" done taking/remaking old bucktails and broke out the new components. i wish i'd started doing this years ago...pretty easy, saves a lot of money, and it's a fun way to pass the winter.

on the double-10s i too like to put a hook (5/0) near the blades, just far enough down to not hang up in the blades. i'd added a hook like this to any double-10s i was throwing that didn't come with one, and i've got a few blades with teeth mark dents...

1) rubber/rubber/tinsel
2) tinsel
3) firefly flashabou/rubber
4) marabou/firefly
5) tinsel/shakertail

we'll see if the cheapo tinsel holds up. if not, i'll just replace it with real flash and reassemble the lure on a new wire.



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esox50
Posted 1/20/2008 3:41 PM (#295145 - in reply to #287289)
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Been super cold here the last few days. Threw the space heater on and went to work on a few creations.


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TheMuskyMan
Posted 1/20/2008 4:42 PM (#295155 - in reply to #287289)
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Location: Maryland
very nice work i like them all
fish4life
Posted 1/20/2008 5:07 PM (#295160 - in reply to #287289)
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Great work guys!!
needa70lber
Posted 1/20/2008 9:39 PM (#295220 - in reply to #295160)
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
Nice baits!!! Great hobby to pass the cold winter days, and football is almost over!
I'm working on some small baits for a friend, what you all think? Great bulger!


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fish4life
Posted 1/22/2008 12:50 PM (#295479 - in reply to #287289)
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esox50, have you ever had problems to start the blades to spin with the bead on top of your clevises? Just look at yours and noticed it, I had problem with my smaller blades like double 8's,!! Thanks Tony
ron f
Posted 1/22/2008 1:59 PM (#295499 - in reply to #287289)
Subject: Re: new bucktail project


wow esox 1 2 3 look very good
esox50
Posted 1/22/2008 2:27 PM (#295510 - in reply to #287289)
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70pounder,

That should be a sweet little stick of dynamite! Small profile behind those big blades might even increase your hooking percentages (beyond what a normal bucktail exhibits)!

Fish4,

As long as you don't "pin" the beads and body to the shaft by jamming them up to the loop then your clevises should spin just fine. I leave a little space at the top so this doesn't happen.


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PredLuR
Posted 1/22/2008 2:46 PM (#295520 - in reply to #287289)
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Location: Madison, WI
What size clevises do you use for the Double 10's. I initially had issues with them spinning as I was using a small bead on top. I was also using a #6 clevis with .051 wire. After that I ordered some "magnum clevis" and placed them on without the small bead on top. Worked alot better. Do you think the issue was the #6 celvis having too close an opening to the wire diameter.
esox50
Posted 1/22/2008 2:51 PM (#295523 - in reply to #295520)
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Hmm, that's strange. Those are #6 clevises in the pic on .062 wire. I wonder if the bead diameter was too small and THOSE weren't able to move? Those beads have a diameter of .063 or something just a little bigger than the wire.
ron f
Posted 1/22/2008 3:54 PM (#295542 - in reply to #287289)
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esox why do you put that bead on the top of the clevis?
esox50
Posted 1/22/2008 5:20 PM (#295584 - in reply to #287289)
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Two main reasons:
1) In the air, it produces extra rattling when the blades vibrate. Underwater I'm not so sure. I wish I could take underwater acoustics of the bait to see if that little bead registers any frequencies.
2) Aesthetics (looks). Just sort of completes the bead set below the clevises.
baitmaker66
Posted 1/22/2008 5:53 PM (#295590 - in reply to #295220)
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Hey 70lbr,

Great looking bucktail!! Like the smaller size. One question, what size are the blades??
fish4life
Posted 1/22/2008 10:54 PM (#295691 - in reply to #287289)
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I think the friction of the bead will slow the natural spinning of the clevises!! Water is pushing the bead against the clevises and that is what I think will slow
the starting of the smaller blades!! I now leave the top bead of all my bucktails and have no problems, besides that great stuff!! I never had that problem with the 10 blades but decided to take the beads off anyway!!
needa70lber
Posted 1/22/2008 11:28 PM (#295697 - in reply to #295590)
Subject: Re: new bucktail project




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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
baitmaker66 - 1/22/2008 5:53 PM

Hey 70lbr,

Great looking bucktail!! Like the smaller size. One question, what size are the blades??





Those are the number 10's, sweet uh!!! Hopefully I can get the bait from tumbling while being retrieved. May need to keel weight em?

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d2bucktail
Posted 1/24/2008 11:28 PM (#296245 - in reply to #288296)
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Pete Yake and others,

Regarding the coil used as a base for tying your material on... Stop by a welder's shop or business that does welding and ask them if they could save you a liner from a wire-feed welder. It's just like the choke/throttle cable others have suggested but it'll probably be free. These liners are what the welding wire feeds thru. Every so often these get kinked or wear out and then they're junk. Most welders just toss them in the trash. Just one welder liner will be a lifetime supply for many of us basement "bucktail" guys. See a sample liner in the pic below.
As far as clamping this coil for tying your "stuff" onto it... I've been using a fly tying vise for years. Take a short piece of .050 wire and bend one end back onto itself. Cut a piece of liner about 3/4 inch long. String your small piece of wire thru the coil and cut the wire so it sticks thru the coil about 1/4 inch or so (enough for your vise to clamp down on). Then Clamp the wire in your vise. See the pics below that show what I've just described including the coil clamped in the vise with thread wrapped around the coil -- ready to start applying your flash-a-bou, rubber, maribou, or maybe even bucktail. Hope this helps.
Here's another idea for clamping the coil. I watched the guys at Musky Mahem tying the flash-a-bou on coil and they just had a small vise grip welded to a clamp that was fastened to their table. They just clamp the coil into the vise grip and start wrapping. I even saw Thorne Bros sells that vise grip clamp setup -- didn't notice the price, though.
Let me know if any of this doesn't make sense.


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Yake Bait
Posted 1/26/2008 7:51 AM (#296457 - in reply to #287289)
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Great technique! Thanks for sharing. I've been eyeballing my plumbing snake hanging in my garage but haven't started cutting chunks off of it cause I didn't have a good way to secure the coil on my vice.
esox50
Posted 1/26/2008 10:54 PM (#296614 - in reply to #287289)
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Someday I'll set up a REAL work bench, cuz boy my finger tips KILL from gripping those coils! And the brake/throttle cable is super. It's much heavier (not sure how much that matters) but a lot cheaper than buying individual pre-cut coils. My local hardware store doesn't sell brake/throttle cable itself, just a kit to fix your mower, but even the cost of the kit with the coil was WAYY cheaper than buying the same amount of pre-cut coil. Oh and the fella tying the Cowgirls at the Chicago Show was awesome. Can you say FAST?
Allstate48
Posted 1/27/2008 7:34 AM (#296650 - in reply to #287289)
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Location: Corning, Iowa
If you guys can wait, untill Monday, I'll see if I can get a liner, if someone is interested. Send me a PM, if interested. Doug
fish4life
Posted 1/31/2008 12:33 PM (#297916 - in reply to #287289)
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Here is one with the Mag. Flash


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boatside bruiser
Posted 2/1/2008 8:38 PM (#298331 - in reply to #287321)
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HI IM FROM MCHENRY DO YOU SELL YOUR BUCKTAILS. [email protected]
needa70lber
Posted 4/12/2008 4:57 PM (#312979 - in reply to #298331)
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
Some more tails finished!!


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helmout
Posted 4/12/2008 7:31 PM (#313003 - in reply to #287289)
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Hi all i have a question for you, i'm having a hard time to find a place to order big 10 blade.

Where do you order those blade, metalic finish ans colored one

Moore lure is closed so where do you get them thx
needa70lber
Posted 4/12/2008 9:18 PM (#313029 - in reply to #313003)
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
rollie and helens has em now. heads and tails too some times
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