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Location: Metro, MN | I am having prblems w/ the thumb bar de-clutching durring midcast, this happens quite often, can anyone help? thanks. |
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Location: Ontario, California | We have heard this just recently from one other person. We are looking at the reels in inventory to see why this is happening on some of them. I will get back with you once the techs and product manager has a chance to look at them against the IDX reels.
Once we get the reel back from the other guy that mentioned this and have a chance to cast it, we should be able to figure it out. Of the 4 that I am running right now, none of them have a problem with the thumb bar coming back up. |
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Location: London, England | It might be a heavy power handle turning in mid cast and re-engaging the reel.... |
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Location: Yahara River Chain | That's what happened to my IDX400LX (left side crank). If I leave the power handle pointing down, it would not happen. But if I would try to casting with the power crank pointing up, then most times it would engage the reel.
Edited by muskie! nut 6/12/2008 9:56 PM
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| well i was told to oil it by steve so im gonna try that and use it this weekend.....ill also see about keeping the handle turned down. like i said i love the reel but this is pretty annoying.
hopefully we can get this figured out  keep me informed also, thanks
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| I've also had the same problem on a reel only used three times....and now another new problem:
The spool will spin as if the line wasn't properly spooled when there is any resistance such as weeds, fish, etc. This happens regardless of drag setting. Basically does not reel in once there is resistance. Any ideas?? As I stated above reel has been only used three times. |
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| California_Muskie (Mark) I know for a fact he is traveling with his family on vacation. He sent me a email a couple days ago. I know he will reply to your posting as soon as he reads it. The customer service provided by Okuma (Mark) is second to none. |
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| schrump - 6/17/2008 11:24 AM
I've also had the same problem on a reel only used three times....and now another new problem:
The spool will spin as if the line wasn't properly spooled when there is any resistance such as weeds, fish, etc. This happens regardless of drag setting. Basically does not reel in once there is resistance. Any ideas?? As I stated above reel has been only used three times.
Sounds like you forgot to use some backing or tape on the spool below your braid. Did you put some mono on the spool first? If you don't have some mono on the spool or put on some electrical tape before spooling up, your braid will do exactly as you have described.
Jed V. |
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| That is definitely not the problem as the Red Isis actually has a hole in the spool to prevent the typical line on spool slippage. |
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Location: Ontario, California | hey guys... I want to reasure you we are working on figuring out what is happening. Unfortunately, the product manager has been very I'll and out of the office. I am traveling accounts on the east coast right now - I REALLY wish I was on vacation though
I am going to call the technician tomorrow and have the assistant product guy work more with him.
I will get back with you as soon as I have an answer.
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| Thanks! |
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Location: Oregon | schrump - 6/17/2008 9:38 PM
That is definitely not the problem as the Red Isis actually has a hole in the spool to prevent the typical line on spool slippage.
Is it possible that the line slipped out of the hole? You might have a friend hold the line or tie it off to something, open the spool and walk down the street peeling it all off to see if it is still hooked to the hole properly. When you wind it back on, do so with a bend in the rod like you are fighting a fish making sure the line goes on really tight. It's worth a try.......
RM |
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| Nope. The line is spooled properly. |
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Location: Waukesha, WI | I used my replacement RI 400 this Saturday for about 8 hours. It worked fine. Thanks for setting things straight Mark. |
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| wait....huh? |
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Location: Waukesha, WI | even exchanged the Red Isis RI-400p through the retailer, but I had been in contact with California_Muskie as well as the retailer's Okuma rep. |
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Location: NYC (and many weeks in MN during summer) | what should guys like me do, who still have problems with the red Isis?
Thanks
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| no return here.....cant return special order items at Thorne Bros = ( |
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Location: Ontario, California | Brian... I sent you my phone number on an earlier PM but never heard from you. I just sent you another one.
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Location: NYC (and many weeks in MN during summer) | Well, mine too was a special order from thorne......
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Location: Ontario, California | The engineers are looking at why some of the reels aren't completely disengaging on occassion. Once we hear from the engineers... I will let you know.
As I mentioned before on PM's to some of you... I took a couple reels out that customers sent in. I was able to fish them all day without having any of them engage. Prior to casting, I would hit the thumb bar and let the bait drop a couple inches while letting all pressure off of the thumb bar and spool. In doing this, I was able to make every cast that day without the reel going into gear. If I did this scenario and the thumb bar didn't allow the bait to fall... I would push it again and it would go into freespool. I am not saying you need to change the way you fish but if you are aware of this and do as I mentioned... you will be able to fish the reels until we hear back from the engineers on an adjustment. I don't want you guys to send the reels in until we have a clear idea of how to fix it for you as we haven't been able to put our finger in it (as we aren't engineers). We should hear something soon.
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Location: NYC (and many weeks in MN during summer) | Mark,
thanks for the update. Its exactly what I was looking for. I know when I consciously press down HARD on the thumb bar, it never happens. All the same, it DOES change the way I fish, as casting becomes an automatic action for me and any alteration IS a bit of an inconvience.
Please remember me when you guys come up with a solution.
Thanks
Randy |
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | My father was having this problem with an Induron (RH) he recently purchased. However, when I would cast the reel I couldn't make it repeat the problem until I cast it with my right hand. It was then I noticed that if my thumb pushed down on the left side of the thumb bar the reel wouldn't completely engage the spool release on the right side of the spool. After paying attention to where he placed his thumb (either center or right side) he hasn't had a problem since. |
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| So what was the fix? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Send the reel in for repair if yours is engaging during the cast. |
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