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Cutt'em all Jack
Posted 2/8/2008 10:20 PM (#299830)
Subject: First Attempt at bucktails





Posts: 139


Location: Slippery Rock, PA
Here are some bucktails that I've been working on the last two weeks. These are the first ones I've ever built.

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Left to right.
Silicon skirt (3 of them) with 8 colorado blades
Regular flashabou with 8 blades
Marabou skirt with 8 blades
Fashabou fly fiber with 8's


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The last two on the right are flashabou fly fiber with 10's.
I used the skoal can for size reference.

I think the flashabou fly fiber is the way to go. Thicker material and seems to stand out better than the regular flashabou. I also zip tied the skirts after tying and using head cement. The head cement just didn't seem like it would hold up.

Any suggestions or comments on making them any better.

Edited by Cutt'em all Jack 2/8/2008 10:22 PM
CollegeMuskyHunter
Posted 2/8/2008 10:46 PM (#299831 - in reply to #299830)
Subject: RE: First Attempt at bucktails




BUcktails look nice. I'm not sure if it is just the angle but make sure the eye loop which is connected to your leader is straight, it may just be the angle. I'm not sure if it will really matter, but for looks. Keep up the good work, the flashabou looks great
muskydope
Posted 2/9/2008 12:51 AM (#299840 - in reply to #299831)
Subject: RE: First Attempt at bucktails





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Location: davis,IL
They look pretty good, but a couple tips (I found out the hard way, lots of trial and error).1 ; make sure all eyes (loops) on your wire is straight and evenly aligned. 2; Keel weight them so they don't spin (I've made my own mold for this). 3; If using #7 or larger blades get the largest clevis's you can on them ( again so the entire bait does not spin). 4; Use quality components, .051 wire, 4/0 hooks, tough split rings, etc. I've been making my own for 25 years on and off, my latest look the best, but are for personal use only, and yes they do catch fish consistently. If you ever see a boat or a guy flying JR Custom Bait colors that's me.
Tackle Industries
Posted 2/9/2008 8:41 AM (#299857 - in reply to #299840)
Subject: RE: First Attempt at bucktails





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Location: Land of the Musky
muskydope,

I was goinjg to do the keel weight on my next set of bucktails. Got any pictures of yours? I know it is straight forward but was just curious to see yours. I plan on putting the keel weight in the same place as my egg weight (rear of bucktails), it woudl of course just be a keel weight.
CollegeMuskyHunter
Posted 2/9/2008 10:59 AM (#299861 - in reply to #299830)
Subject: RE: First Attempt at bucktails




Are Keel weights really that important? Why?
degrelle
Posted 2/9/2008 2:05 PM (#299884 - in reply to #299830)
Subject: Re: First Attempt at bucktails


nice debut
muskydope
Posted 2/9/2008 3:01 PM (#299888 - in reply to #299884)
Subject: Re: First Attempt at bucktails





Posts: 271


Location: davis,IL
Here's a picture of a bait, a yet to be bait with the keel weight, and my home made mold. As to why is a keel weight important, it will minimize the whole bait spinning as it's pulled through the water, lessening line twist.


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Yake Bait
Posted 2/11/2008 5:58 AM (#300104 - in reply to #299830)
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Nice bucktail.

Do you form or crimp the lead to prevent the wire from spinning through the keel? Also wondering if you do something to secure the coils to tie the bait together or do you let them spin free?

Thanks,

Pete
muskydope
Posted 2/11/2008 6:19 AM (#300106 - in reply to #300104)
Subject: Re: First Attempt at bucktails





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Location: davis,IL
If you look closely at my mold you can see the groove where I set the wire in place. First I put a small "v" bend in the wire, install it in the mold, bolt the molt together, then pour the lead. As far as using coils, I don't, I tie directly onto the shaft using plastic beads between each of the hair or feather wraps to seperate them. Then I put a small bend in the wire to hold the worm weight in place. The whole thing when finished is pretty robust, but not friendly to large scale production as it is labor intensive (approx 1 hour per lure).
J Nail
Posted 2/11/2008 1:29 PM (#300185 - in reply to #299830)
Subject: Re: First Attempt at bucktails




Posts: 162


Location: Bemidji, MN
A trick I have been using for keel wieghting without having to mold lead is just to take an egg sinker, put a piece of wire through it, and hammer it flat on the back of the vice or an anvil. It still puts the wire through the middle, but the flat weight seems to stop things from spinning.
Cutt'em all Jack
Posted 2/11/2008 10:14 PM (#300350 - in reply to #299830)
Subject: Re: First Attempt at bucktails





Posts: 139


Location: Slippery Rock, PA
Thanks for the comments and suggestions. J Nail, do you have any pics of the egg sinker going through it's beating?
Esox1850
Posted 2/14/2008 12:14 PM (#301013 - in reply to #299830)
Subject: RE: First Attempt at bucktails




I use .051 for a reason no one has mentioned. I feel you get more vibration out of the smaller guage wire (.051 vs .062), more resonation, more sound. My .02
ranger620
Posted 2/15/2008 9:26 PM (#301374 - in reply to #299830)
Subject: RE: First Attempt at bucktails




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Here are some of my first tails. I tied these up last year and they performed pretty well for me.Tried to post pic but says file was too large how can I fix that.
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