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Posted 3/28/2002 5:07 PM (#960)
Subject: StructureBASICS...The large weed flat


Say you have a weed flat 6 miles long going north and south.

The shoreline is to the west and open water is to the east.

The weed line starts at 7ft and goes to 11ft (approx 100 feet of weeds), 7 ft and under is a sand flat that extends to shore.

The weed flat has a sharp edge at 11ft, but often turns in and out.

There is a good drop off from the weed edge to 30ft.

There is a south east wind at 5ph and its September on a clear body of water. Water temp is 65 degrees.

1)Where do you start?

2)What presentation to you do to trigger a strike?

Posted 3/30/2002 5:45 AM (#27726)
Subject: StructureBASICS...The large weed flat


Someone has to have some feedback here.

Posted 3/30/2002 6:14 AM (#27727)
Subject: StructureBASICS...The large weed flat


Until I could find some of the "spot on the spot" areas of such a large weed bed, I would speed troll (4 to 6 mph) it with spinner bait's it the prop wash or with a short line and a 8 inch Slammer. If fish contact is made is certain areas, I would now go back and fish it with bucktails or twitching 7 and 8 inch Slammers.

Posted 3/30/2002 12:17 PM (#27728)
Subject: StructureBASICS...The large weed flat


At first light I would fan cast the weed edge facing the shore and the adjacent sand flat with a TopRaider and then move to bucktails. Mid morning I move to fancasting the weed edge facing open water, same baits. I would drift along the weed edge with the wind, then move out to deeper water, just past where it bottoms out to 30', and staying parallel to the weed edge, I would troll suspended fish with a 10" jake while I jerk a weighted suick. Repeat that pattern, trolling up wind, and then drifting back down while casting, until evening, then cast a weighed suick over the deep weed edge. At dark move back to a TopRaider in shallower water.

Long day, I'm pooped.


Posted 3/30/2002 10:10 PM (#27729)
Subject: StructureBASICS...The large weed flat


I first would propwash troll it to learn the weed line and find the sweet spots, inside turns ect.

Then I would come back pitch jerkbaits and cranks down the weed line and pitch topwaters on the inside edge and flat adjacent to the sweet spot on the weed line.

By the way, this spot does exist..anyone know where....LOL[:bigsmile:]

Posted 4/3/2002 12:14 PM (#27730)
Subject: StructureBASICS...The large weed flat


any last comments on this?

Posted 4/3/2002 7:05 PM (#27731)
Subject: StructureBASICS...The large weed flat


Your description of this large weed flat sounds like the weed beds in the Two Points area of Portage Bay on Leech. I fish this area often and the inside turns and points of the weed line are important to learn. The learning process takes a lot of time and patience. I would use my Pinpoint to follow the breakline. Posistion the boat a casts length from the outside weed line and start pounding.

I also troll this area using spinnerbaits and ten inch Reef Hawgs. Trolling and plotting way points on the turns and points on the flat is a great way to learn the outline of the weed edge.

Good luck, Murph

Posted 4/3/2002 7:11 PM (#27732)
Subject: StructureBASICS...The large weed flat


You are correct sir.....Every one of these Structure 101 threads are REAL spots. I try to discribe them the best I can and pick a situation.

Thank for your comments, Murph!

Posted 4/4/2002 6:59 AM (#27733)
Subject: StructureBASICS...The large weed flat


Hey Jason, the first thing I would do is try and disect(sp) this flat, try and find all the spots on the spot as Bill stated, the way I would do this is fish it at different deapths at different times, most of your better areas will have some sort of change to it, whether it's going from heavy weeds to sparse or coontail to cabbage but the area I'll spend alot of time with is the one where the weeds make contact with deep water instantly. It will take me longer than alot of the people here because I can't troll but the up side to that is by casting it or picking it apart I believe I'll be able to find a few more sweet spots that might be missed by trolling it.[;)]

Posted 4/5/2002 10:25 PM (#27734)
Subject: StructureBASICS...The large weed flat


I agree with Chuck. The best way to find spots on the spot is to dissect the stretch little pieces at a time. It will take a long time to do but once you have done it, you will be amazed at your success. Since you let the cat out of the bag and said it is a MN lake, I would spend a lot of time on the inside weed edge as well - looking for open pockets in the weeds. Speed trolling spinner baits will allow you to cover a larger area at first. Look for subtle differences in the flat (weed pods, points, turns, holes, sand patches, change in weed types, etc...). The differences will lead you to consistent fish. Baits of choice for casting once I have selected some spots to concentrate on - bucktails with large fluted colorado blades (Joe's, Shady Tails), squirkos, jerkos, 7" Slammers, Crane baits, Jakes, quicker moving topwaters, shallow Dawgs.
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