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Message Subject: Northern IL Muskies
lambeau
Posted 11/20/2007 1:13 PM (#285515 - in reply to #285506)
Subject: Re: Northern IL Muskies


the fish/lure/rod/reel picture is a traditional way to pose a catch. look at the first issue of Musky Hunter and you'll see lots of examples of this particular "pose". it makes for a cool picture, and emphasizes the fish over the angler.
that being said, it was also most popular at a time when almost every fish was being kept...thus the immediate reaction you'll get from people who see it today - the history of that style of picture suggests/implies that the fish was kept.
obviously, limiting the out-of-water time and preventing it from hurting itself on things (such as the bottom of a boat) is best for the fish regardless of how you choose to pose it for a picture.
Whhat?
Posted 11/20/2007 3:39 PM (#285548 - in reply to #284473)
Subject: RE: Northern IL Muskies


again??????
Years ago they did show the ski on the ground but we know better now. We learn.
I am just saying that their are new muskie fisherman on this board and I think we owe it to them to show the proper way.
Thats all.
I know he put his boat away for the year but what does that have to do with anything.
What if I went muskie fishing and left me muskie rods and equipment at home. should I then use my bass equipment?
No.
If you cant do it the right way don't do it.
Again turtles thank you
husky_jerk
Posted 11/20/2007 4:54 PM (#285557 - in reply to #285548)
Subject: RE: Northern IL Muskies




Posts: 305


Location: Illinois
Turtles? Don't think so.
Wwhat?, I happen to agree that he shouldn't be laying the fish in the grass. It's apparent that Needsa70lber wasn't aware that this is a bad thing as he posted his picture. We used to see it all the time, and now most have gotten away from it. Maybe that's how he learned or maybe he just didn't know. The point is that jumping all over guys in situations like these makes no sense at all. The guy isn't purposely trying to do anything, and he probably learned a lesson.

Needa70lber. Nice fish bud!
Muskybug
Posted 11/20/2007 6:29 PM (#285571 - in reply to #284473)
Subject: RE: Northern IL Muskies





Posts: 64


First of all, Nice fish to all of you! I fish northern Il. lakes and im having trouble sticking my fall fatty. Iv'e read multiple posts from all of you, and Im pretty sure we all know that the less we can handle a fish the better. Obviously! Give the Guy some slack anyway, it's not like he lay's all his fish on the bottom of his Tuffy for pics. The situation may have called for this approach. I really dont see how different this is than lying the fish down on you bumpboard for a Quick measurement. But anyway congrats on all the nice fish, and keep up the great reports.
Needa70lber, cograts to you, and your mom on the third place finish in the FRV outing!
Nick, congrats to you on a great season, and the great tourney results for you too.
Mabey you can help me get that Late fall fatty! Or mabey I'll just have to wait for the hard water. ooops! thats a whole different debate.
Lance
needa70lber
Posted 11/20/2007 7:39 PM (#285582 - in reply to #284473)
Subject: RE: Northern IL Muskies




Posts: 156


Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
Thanks for the posts! Believe me I try my hardest not to harm these fish, they are my passion and drive! The guest post was right on, had to get the hooks out, one was near eye and had to cut, didn't think the pics would get all the debate. When a musky feels water it's thinking get the hell outta here! The shore I was fishing was very rocky, too. Illinios waters especially forest preserve lakes forbide or prohibit wadding, kinda sucks when trying to release a big musky, any big fish. Last year I actually brought a large bath towel with me to the lake, looked like an idiot. Well I caught a 34" musky and dipped the towel in the water and laid the fish on it to get the hooks out. That fish flopped off the towel and onto the grass!! The hooks got deeper, too! What a mess! She swam away fine once I got the hooks out.

Catch-22 landing literally a musky from shore. You don't want to bring her in to fast or she'll bang her head on the shore, but you don't want to free spool her for a long duration either or too much stress will incure. Most anglers today from a boat try getting the fish, any fish in as fast as possible (bass pro's). Net, cut, photo, release. Some don't bother with the photo. I have seen dvd's, videos of pros that hook a musky, reel fast as hell and their partner has the net in the water as fast as the fish was hooked. Then drag the fish in the net, and cut the hooks. Sometimes the fish still has so much energy they barrel role in the net, does harm to the fins, gills what ever. No matter how we try it we are still hunters and the musky prey. Once hooked it's our duty as an angler to try our best under any condition to release a fish properly. Sometimes that doesn't always happen.

needa70lber
Posted 11/20/2007 7:50 PM (#285586 - in reply to #285571)
Subject: RE: Northern IL Muskies




Posts: 156


Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
Muskybug - 11/20/2007 6:29 PM



First of all, Nice fish to all of you! I fish northern Il. lakes and im having trouble sticking my fall fatty. Iv'e read multiple posts from all of you, and Im pretty sure we all know that the less we can handle a fish the better. Obviously! Give the Guy some slack anyway, it's not like he lay's all his fish on the bottom of his Tuffy for pics. The situation may have called for this approach. I really dont see how different this is than lying the fish down on you bumpboard for a Quick measurement. But anyway congrats on all the nice fish, and keep up the great reports.
Needa70lber, cograts to you, and your mom on the third place finish in the FRV outing!
Nick, congrats to you on a great season, and the great tourney results for you too.
Mabey you can help me get that Late fall fatty! Or mabey I'll just have to wait for the hard water. ooops! thats a whole different debate.
Lance :)


Lance seriously, I may hit the same lake this weekend pm me, sorry boat's sleeping right now. Or hell any body I'll help release your fish, just hold it while I cut. Thanks, Nick
Reelwise
Posted 11/20/2007 10:36 PM (#285609 - in reply to #284473)
Subject: Re: Northern IL Muskies




Posts: 1636


Not to stir the pot any more...but how long did it take to fight the fish, grab it, unhook it, take two pics holding it, then two more of it on the ground...then walk it back to the water?

In all seriousness...I've seen worse. Its amazing how lively these fish are this time of the year.

:)
needa70lber
Posted 11/20/2007 11:17 PM (#285612 - in reply to #285609)
Subject: Re: Northern IL Muskies




Posts: 156


Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
Reelwise - 11/20/2007 10:36 PM

Not to stir the pot any more...but how long did it take to fight the fish, grab it, unhook it, take two pics holding it, then two more of it on the ground...then walk it back to the water?

In all seriousness...I've seen worse. Its amazing how lively these fish are this time of the year.

:) :)


Thanks reelwise. You summed it up. Took me longer playing with it (fighting it) near shore by the rocks because I did not want her to hit em'. She looked done like most muskies but was green so I free spooled her three times nearshore. Played her out but not to the point of exhaustion. Grabed her by the gill plate firmly because I did not want to drop her, which never happened. She never flopped once while holding her the entire time. The rear hook was just above her right eye and cut not ripped the hook, the middle hook was in the side jaw which came out like never hooked. The photo's were very quick, less than a minute. I know photo's can be deceiving, looks like I had her out of the water for 15 min, not!

This fish actually followed my bait to shore and then went back out I lifted the lure did a quick half @#$ cast and twitched 4-5 times and she hit!! maybe 20 feet out. And yes I too have seen worse, i.e. the guide up in canada with a 55" fish swimming in his boat!
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