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esoxnut
Posted 5/11/2007 12:15 AM (#255631)
Subject: Tieing your own Flurocarbon leaders question




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Location: Brookfield
Can you tie 80 pound flurocarbon leaders yourself or do you have to crimp them?
Dacron + Dip
Posted 5/11/2007 12:39 AM (#255633 - in reply to #255631)
Subject: RE: Tieing your own Flurocarbon leaders question


I made a few tied and crimped leaders last season and both survived fish 45 to about 47 inches. I used a loop-knot on both ends on the ones I tied, using a lot of lube and vice grips to pull the tag end in tight. Clinch-type knots were tougher for me, the loop worked better. I used one hand to pull the mainline, one on the vice grips to cinch the tag end and had the loop around a dowel in a shop vice. This year I'll crimp them all, way easier. When finished, the loops are neat, and just large enough to get around the tip of my pinky.
pamuskyhunter
Posted 5/11/2007 9:44 AM (#255677 - in reply to #255631)
Subject: Re: Tieing your own Flurocarbon leaders question





Posts: 613


Location: big cove tannery pa
I use 80lb mono for leaders, i have bought doublesleeves and tied them.
I generally like the tied ones better than the ones with the sleeves since it is tied right too the swivels/lure. I use the clinch knots with a little fishing glue added too them. Seems too be strong,i havent hooked a muskie on them but i did take a 20lb weight, attached it too theleader and hung it,they held up fine.
Pete Stoltman
Posted 5/12/2007 8:01 AM (#255788 - in reply to #255631)
Subject: Re: Tieing your own Flurocarbon leaders question




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I'm sure that there are some previous posts on this topic but here's my input. I've done quite a few 80lb. fluoro leaders. I started out using an improved clinch knot. It worked and held fine. Later I started doing a uni-knot which was a bit easier to tie (for me) and again it worked fine as long as you pull the know down tight. Now, I've been using a nail knot with the aid of the DuBro nail knotter tool and like this knot the best. It is very secure and a very neat finished knot. 100 lb. fluoro and up was a bit trickier with the other knots but did just fine with the nail knot.
Don Pfeiffer
Posted 5/20/2007 10:48 PM (#257047 - in reply to #255631)
Subject: Re: Tieing your own Flurocarbon leaders question




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Location: Rhinelander.
just curious as why you guys use 80 lb as I use only 40 or 50 and have no problems with it yet. I think it be a fluke for a muskie to bite off even the 40.

Pfeiff
Partycrasher
Posted 5/21/2007 10:11 AM (#257100 - in reply to #255631)
Subject: RE: Tieing your own Flurocarbon leaders question




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Don, I know you fish creatures too. Last year I had two fish pick-up a creature with the tell tale thump. I reeled up and hit them and nearly flew out of the boat because there was nothing there. In both cases I got back about half of my 50# fluoro leader. It was like the musky had a side cutter it was cut so clean! My knee jerk reaction was to go to 80# or more, but at that point I think the .014 single-strand wire I have been using for the last 30 years is less visible than that big fat fluorocarbon material.

I also lost a couple fish on quick-strikes made with Fluorocarbon. I honestly think I'm sticking with wire.
DH.Pare
Posted 5/21/2007 1:21 PM (#257153 - in reply to #257100)
Subject: RE: Tieing your own Flurocarbon leaders question




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Location: Montreal, Que. Canada
Marc,

You might want to try AFW's surflon Micro supreme 7x7 it is more supple than sevenstrand , thinner and you can tie it.

David
Partycrasher
Posted 5/22/2007 3:56 PM (#257353 - in reply to #255631)
Subject: RE: Tieing your own Flurocarbon leaders question




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Thanks David. I'll check into that stuff. I haven't tried that one yet.
Dacron + Dip
Posted 5/22/2007 5:39 PM (#257368 - in reply to #255631)
Subject: RE: Tieing your own Flurocarbon leaders question


A 38 inch pike trashed a 40# fluro leader in my boat two weeks ago (not my leader). For small fish you might get away with stuff that light for a while, absolutely no way I'd go anything ligther than 80/90 for casting expensive, sinking baits and/or fish that are mostly from 48 to 50+ inches.
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