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Grunt Lures
Posted 3/17/2007 8:27 PM (#245402)
Subject: Copper foil question





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Location: Minnesota
If you wanted to do a copper foil bait woudl you start with something like this?

http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?pid=4540&step=4&showunits=...

If you guys have a source for copper foil could you post it? Almost done with some aluminum foil baits but I think copper would look great! Found gold foil too and it was not much but, not sure if I could work with material that thin.

Thanks,
James
rjbass
Posted 3/17/2007 10:59 PM (#245413 - in reply to #245402)
Subject: RE: Copper foil question





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Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan
Grunt man,

This is the stuff I use and it works great. http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Electronics,_pickups/Supplies:_Shieldin...

Thin, strong and has good adhesive.

Rod



Edited by rjbass 3/17/2007 11:01 PM
fatfingers
Posted 3/18/2007 10:04 AM (#245455 - in reply to #245402)
Subject: RE: Copper foil question




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Grunt, the thin foils can actually be easier to work with if you approach it right.

The thin foils often have patterns that are less tricky when it comes to the patterns revealed when applied.

I have used the stuff that is like gold leaf, but comes in a variety of color patterns. When you apply it, simply spray the bait, apply the foil and use a soft but semi-stiff paint brush to brush off the excess foil (a process which is a lot easier than carefully trimming the excess furnace foil).

If you missed any areas, the bait surface exposed should still be tacky if you've applied the spray glue properly. Thus, you can simply apply more foil to the exposed, uncovered areas.

Here's one of my first attempts:

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The thin foils create an effect that is different than the silver smooth foils; not better or worse really, just different. That's a good thing.

I have about 3 dozen baits waiting to be finished some of which are carved and foiled. I'll post them when I'm done.
Grunt Lures
Posted 3/18/2007 12:10 PM (#245470 - in reply to #245402)
Subject: Re: Copper foil question





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Location: Minnesota
Thanks guys!

fatfingers, Nice lookin g bait! Looks like you apply the foil than one coat clear and then paint the rest of the pattern on? I did a few last week and tried a few different ways fo doing it. Once I get them finished with the rest of the epoxy I will post them adn aska few more questions. Not sure I would want ot make these a lot. They take about 2-3x more time.

Thanks,
James
fatfingers
Posted 3/18/2007 12:56 PM (#245475 - in reply to #245470)
Subject: Re: Copper foil question




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That's exactly how I make them, James.

I can usually foil using this type of foil a bit faster than I can the furnace stuff. Its a lot more fool-proof as long as the pattern is complex; it will hide any aberrations when you actually lay the foil on. The furnace stuff will show any hard creases made during the application though some can be burnished out., but it shines more. Sort of a tradeoff, I guess.
Grunt Lures
Posted 3/18/2007 1:38 PM (#245478 - in reply to #245402)
Subject: Re: Copper foil question





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Location: Minnesota
I may buy some gold leaf. Cost $60 but, that woudl be enought to do about 20 baits. Nothing shines like gold.
fatfingers
Posted 3/18/2007 1:57 PM (#245481 - in reply to #245478)
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Now you're talkin'!
Tigger
Posted 3/18/2007 7:04 PM (#245534 - in reply to #245402)
Subject: Re: Copper foil question





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Location: Burton, Ohio
James now your talken gold!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Diamonds for eyes also! LOL Your the man! I am changing your name to Cadillac Baits!

One other source that I found for copper was this. I have not ordered any yet.

http://www.mcmaster.com/
Grunt Lures
Posted 3/18/2007 9:10 PM (#245573 - in reply to #245534)
Subject: Re: Copper foil question





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Location: Minnesota
Thanks Tigger. I have their catalog at work

Got more of my wifes tin foil! She left with the kids for a few days. She won't know what happened ot the house when she gets back. I have a who assembly line in the basement For some reason this week on eBay has been going nuts! I guess people are getting the "bug" to go fishing. A month ago the keyword "muskie lure" got 300 hits and today it gets 515. First week of June it will be 18! LOL

Almost ready to post some picture!
James
Musky Snax
Posted 3/22/2007 10:15 AM (#246484 - in reply to #245402)
Subject: Re: Copper foil question





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Location: Muskoka Ontario,Canada
On my latest batch of orders I have to do a couple of foil finishes that a customer convinced me to do. I actually tried referring him to some of you guys but he thought I should at least try it first. I'm looking forward to giving it a whirl but I have no plans on doing it beyond on special orders. Full credit goes to all those I'm going to need help from!
Tim Kelly
Posted 3/22/2007 11:59 AM (#246507 - in reply to #245402)
Subject: Re: Copper foil question





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Location: London, England
If you get the gold foil it might be cool to twist on a scale pattern like they do on the old school bikes on American Chopper and all those shows. Once the gold is down you get a bit of rag on the end of a stick, press it lightly onto the gold then twist the stick. Work from the tail to the head and it would be a very cool scale effect!
Grunt Lures
Posted 3/22/2007 2:18 PM (#246554 - in reply to #246507)
Subject: Re: Copper foil question





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Location: Minnesota
Tim Kelly,
I think I have seen that on the show. I have seen the effect and it is VERY cool and would look great as scales. Awsome idea. Now lets see who can do it first
Thanks,
James
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