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Location: Davenport, IA | This is just something I thought was interesting when I opened up my new Curado 300...the gears are huge. This should allow the reel to have more power than other 6.2:1 reels. For comparison is a 6500C3's gears (I know its blue...but its a hybrid)
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Location: Muskoka Ontario,Canada | I just picked one of those up today and I can hardly wait to use it. I've been using Shimano Calcutta TE 200GT reels which are really Bass reels with beefy gearing. They have worked extremely well but don't have the line capacity or gear ratio that I need.
I'd been hoping that they would finally make a higher end musky reel that was easy to palm and had the high efficiency gearing. Much to my delight, they came out with exactly what I've been waiting for!
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| 6.2:1 is 6.2:1, It doesn't matter how big the gears are. What matters is the size of the gears in relationship to each other. However, This reel should last much longer than other high speed reels due to a higher wear surface. I was very excited to see this new reel out but I'm not sold on the high ratio. I guess I'll be using the CTE-300 for another year. Would be interesting if I could put a 5:1 TE gear set in it then I would be a happy man indeed.
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Location: Davenport, IA | So...the durability of the rearend in my car will be the same if I use a Dana 60 or Dana 35 as long as they're both 3.55's? Bigger is better.
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Location: Muskoka Ontario,Canada | Pick up one of these reels and then marvel at the silky smooth POWERFUL retrieve and you'll never look back. Surprisingly, the high gear ratio does not make the reel any stiffer to retrieve which is usually the price you pay. It feels better during the retrieve than the even higher end Calais bass reels which I owned briefly and returned.
This is without a doubt the best musky reel out there right now. It simply has no flaws that I can think of. There is a full review of the reel on www.tackletour.com which I urge you to read if you aren't sure about this model.
Just also want to mention that I do NOT represent Shimano proffesionally and my comments are purely from personal experience.
Edited by Musky Snax 2/18/2007 7:47 PM
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| I used a Chronarch 100BSV for small baits last year and loved the way it felt in my hand. So this year i got a Curado 300DSV and will try it with larger baits.
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| Griz has it right, the bigger gears might improve durability but the power only depends on the gear ratio. 6.2 is 6.2 |
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Location: Muskoka Ontario,Canada | On most reels a 6.2 gear ratio would feel harder to spin than this model. To me that is going to feel a whole lot better on my wrists at the end of a hard days fishing. For whatever reason, this reel is effortless to spin and has no feeling of flex or binding under load. |
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Location: London, England | I wonder if the handles are longer on the big gear models. That would certainly make the reel easier to wind.
I can't see how bigger gears would help your mechanical advantage, just gear durability as has been said.
Stupid little bass reels anyway, one decent cast and the spool diameter will be tiny! ;-)
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Location: Muskoka Ontario,Canada | Tim, are you saying that the spool is tiny on the reel we are discussing? If so, it is not and that was one the factors in me deciding to purchase this model. It has a very good line capacity actually, the same as an Abu Garcia 6500. |
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Location: London, England | Curado 300 dsv 12/240, 14/190, 20/120 Much closer to 5500 sized spool capacity. Put 100lb braid on it and the spool's virtually empty with a longish cast. The Quantum Cabo 30 size is closer to a 6500 capacity. |
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| "power" ? with 6.2 to 1?
you also have to take into account line inches per retrieve...6.2 is hardly what I call "power".
you are better off getting cranking power from lower gear ratios.
6.2 is 6.2 as others have said.
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Location: Muskoka Ontario,Canada | All I can tell you is that the reel is easier to retrieve than any other I've tried and I've pretty much tried them all. |
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Location: Muskoka Ontario,Canada | My bad on the line capacity post. I'd forgotten about the filler line I still had left on the Abu when I recently put its 100lb Power Pro onto the Shimano. However, the line capacity for casting will not be an issue I guarantee. I can just about spool my much smaller Calcutta TE 200 GT with 80 lb PP throwing a Giant Jackpot which casts like a bullet. This reel for sure holds quite a lot more line than that reel.
I'm certainly not arguing with anyone on the specs of the reel but let me tell you that it has a fluid powerful retrieve which is unmatched for a reel of this size and weight.
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| Before people crown this latest soft gear wonder from Shimano as the greatest reel ever, you should be aware that about 5 years ago Abu made a high speed model (6.3:1?) which is smooth, has a modified UltraCast spool with huge, integrated bearings and both the main and pinion gears are STAINLESS STEEL. I wonder how many 100 pound tarpon the shimano could handle before calling it a day. The Abu model was a 6500 HCL and it was part of the Big Game series of reels. |
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Location: Muskoka Ontario,Canada | Honestly, every Abu reel I've ever tried felt grindy in comparrison. I just don't like the feel of them. To each his own though. This is only an opinion I'm posting. |
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Location: Davenport, IA | To be honest, I've never had a durable abu, and will never buy another round reel from them unless they really change them. They are so far behind in technology. The 5000 size still has the levelwind move on the cast. This hurts distance. And those plastic worm gears break. No thumbar on the regular c3 and the one with thumbars don't move straight down...it was an add-on for necessity rather than a new design. Most people using abus have probobly never tried something different which is why they love them so much. Just my 2 cents. |
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Location: Muskoka Ontario,Canada | The moving levelwinds are a feature to assist in casting distance on some reel models as it reduces the line angle as it peels off the spool. I prefer a completely free spool like on the Shimano Curado 300 DSV. My Abu quite honestly feels like a toy in comparisson. Just a completely different level of engineering. Shimano has always made smooth feeling reels that I personally have never had fail me yet. I'm certain that they have had their issues over the years but I also feel that they are superior to eveything else out there right now. Just my opinion of course! 
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Location: Davenport, IA | I agree that the Curado seems like a really well built reel and really smooth. But on the lower end, I do not like Shimanos. As much as I dislike abus, they are much better than similarly priced shimano. (I prefer the Pflueger Trion for lower priced reels) I had a corsair for a couple months before it failed me. I had a calyx (low profile for bass) that made a lot of noise...had it in for repair twice before it was fixed. |
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Location: London, England | I agree that the shimanos are generally much better made (I have a curado 201 and 101), and engineered, they are newly designed every few years! ABUs are far less expensive, can easily be repaired in the field (which is handy as they're much more likely to go wrong!) and parts are easily available for most models of any age.
I dislike small reels though as they have mechanical disadvantages for actually fishing and I use 7001 reels which don't seem to go wrong, pull the biggest, most resistant baits without blinking and retrieve speed stays more consistant as the line level never drops much. They are big and heavy, but as long as you don't have very small hands you soon get used to them. |
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | Tim Kelly - 2/21/2007 1:34 AM
ABUs are far less expensive, can easily be repaired in the field (which is handy as they're much more likely to go wrong!) and parts are easily available for most models of any age.
I will agree with the ease of repair and replacement parts, but if you take care of your abu's they last a long time. I still have my original from 84 and the only thing I have had to replace was the worm drive because I let it get dry and a little dirt particle got in there. Father has one from 74 and has never had an issue (those really old models were the best for durability) If you clean and lube them consistently, there are no breakdown issues that I have come across. I currently have 4, and all see plenty of use through the year and none of them have failed me. I make sure to clean and lube about once every month or so and the worm drive gets a little oil about every other day.
Regardless of your beliefs, every reel will fail at some point in time. It is a given with anything mechanical. So..what I see is it comes down to replacing every few years and spend less, or maybe get a couple more years out of a reel, then spend more to replace it with a higher end model. 6 of one, half dozen of the other...
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