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| I see Chad Cain is having some dirty water times down on his pond... What are some things and angler can do to catch a muskie in those conditions.? |
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| Hey Jason,
In muddy water where the visibility is less than an inch, there is virtually nothing you can do to catch them on a even somewhat consistent basis. I had to reschedule my next couple of weeks due to it. I have tried everything in the past to catch them in muddy water, with little or no success. If the visibility in a few inches though, they are very catchable. We use very noisy crankbaits like 8" and 10" Jakes twitching them, or jointed believers and swim wizz's, that make a ton of noise with the two halves clanking together on a straight retrieve. Most of the fish we caught the last couple of weeks was in water with less than a foot of visibility, and they had no problem finding the lures. But when the water gets to less than an inch of visibility, it flat out SUCKS!!!
Chad Cain |
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| I fish muddy water alot, and have found that if there is ANY water entering the system; creaks, clear run off, or the like, there is a mud-line set up between the really dirty and not so dirty water. Fish that as if it is a weedline, where ever the line crosses structure. I have had some success fishing mud-lines for muskies out in the never-never areas, too. |
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| Unfortunately, Steve, most of the reservoirs that we fish down south, the creeks are what is bringing the muddy water in. Most of the creeks travel through agricultural areas that pour a ton of mud into the creeks, and then right into the lakes.
Chad |
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| Chad,
I know what you mean about the creeks being the source of your MUD. But, the smaller feeder creeks will "slow down" faster and offer a "cleaner" source of water before the larger feeders will. Following SWorrall's advice, it wouldn't hurt to find those coves with SMALL creeks feeding them and look there first for a source of clearer water.
I'm sure you already know this and have tried every inch of Kincaid under these circumstances... but sometimes an unbiased opinion can help you overcome some paradigms. Also, when the water gets as muddy as you say.... I'd fish extremely shallow and close to the bank. Just some thoughts. Good Luck. |
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| I agree with Chad on the extreme mud, and I think the problem may be a gill problem rather than visibility. I think the extreme turbidity/siltation may cause depressed oxygen conditions or interfere with the availibility across a gill.
I would add a suick to the list of stuff I will throw in dirt. Probably any of the jerks that push lots of water will work. I doubt you would be able to get anything going gliders unless they push before they glide.
Good time to use your oversize baits, chartreuse and white for colors(and not a chartreuse with a lot of green in it).
You can at times fish in front of the mud or find a clearer area but the straight influx of mud is a bummer, and cold mud is worse than warm mud. I spent alot of time in Illinois agriculture-wise and they have lots and lots of dirt to go into the creeks there, LOL.
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| Muddy water SUCKS! There is no question about that. But, muskies can be caught consistantly under these conditions. This is a situation for using what I like to call the jlong technique (using diving cranks as jerk baits). If you think you are ripping the bait fast and hard.... times that by 3 or 4. And dont just bump the wood, try to shatter your crankbait on it. The muskies will hold very tight to cover and triggering violent instinctive strikes is the only way that I have found to be consistant in zero visability. But, be careful because you will have to fish with SHORT SHORT ACCURATE casts (you can get a face full of trebles realy easy and you can break your rod really easy).
MUSKY ILLINI
"Hey, did somebody step on a DUCK!"
PS. For me, color is NOT a factor |
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| Well, if they do what the bass do in that situation, you could find them in 1ft and less water. I seen Bill Dance do it too. It seems they slide shallow because of the visibility too and you only catch them there when there is no visibility to the water. It may be musky do it too. Spinnerbaits have been good to me for bass in that situation. |
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| The Wisconsin River has 3" vis...and they eat..
What is the difference? |
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| Jason,
Those fish are conditioned to deal with that type of visibility. Lake Kinkaid is a Clearer water lake. The fish seem to be shocked into different behaviors when delt the blow of muddy water.
MUSKY ILLINI
"Kick his A$$, SEABASS" |
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| I don't know about catching Musky's in muddy water, but I have been known to listen to Muddy Waters while fishing for Musky's!!!!![;)]
All I have to say is "LOUD AND BIG" |
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| Muddy water hits us all too often on the CAVE. However most of my bigger spring fish have come with zero visibility. Also here on the CAVE and Green River where the muskies hit smaller baits in the spring Rattle baits have great success.
On the CAVE try orange and chartreuse.
Tony Grant |
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| Hmmm, Chad sounds like you need to get Musky Illini out with you so he can help you with your problem. It will surely make you some money and you won't lose any guide bookings any more due to muddy water, especially with consistant catches like Illini gets.
Er...let us know how the lesson goes, eh?
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| FSF,
I find your lack of faith disturbing....
Sounds like somebody has a case of the "slamrs" tonight. I think you need to take a nap little guy you seem a little tired. LOL!
MUSKY ILLINI
"If you strike me down, I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine!"
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