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Message Subject: When is big too big?
ulbian
Posted 1/4/2007 11:27 PM (#230061)
Subject: When is big too big?




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Hard time finding the right hooks for this baby. That's a Super TR and a ABU RCN61 sitting there.




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Pointerpride102
Posted 1/4/2007 11:36 PM (#230062 - in reply to #230061)
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Location: The desert
LOL!
A-ROZ
Posted 1/4/2007 11:39 PM (#230063 - in reply to #230061)
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Location: Girdwood, Alaska
WOW!!!
Kingfisher
Posted 1/4/2007 11:54 PM (#230071 - in reply to #230061)
Subject: RE: When is big too big?




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Location: Muskegon Michigan
Thats a good question. I keep selling 21 inch deep divers to guys in the north . I just sold 6 15 inch Deepthreats to Pastikas . They will have them in Chicago. Ask Al to show you the Lake trout. That lure is so friggin sweet in might not make it to the show. Big baits are selling as fast as I can make them and have been for the past 11 months. Top selling colors have been Lake trout, Whitefish, Cisco, Walleye and black Sucker. Pike and Fire perch are also going pretty fast.I just moved a 12 inch for 54 bucks on Ebay(Sunset Carp) I have an Olive frog out there now. I made a 21 inch Walleye for a local guy here last week. He is just going to hang it on his wall. I use 10/0 Mustads for the 21 inch. They dont need to be any bigger for the profile of the lure. Ill get a picture of the next 21 inch Lake trout I do and post it here. Kingfisher
Guest
Posted 1/5/2007 11:35 AM (#230157 - in reply to #230061)
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That lure is too big.
esoxaddict
Posted 1/5/2007 11:38 AM (#230159 - in reply to #230061)
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I'd cast that %^$&%
mountainmuskies
Posted 1/5/2007 11:54 AM (#230165 - in reply to #230061)
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I wouldn't mind catching a Musky that size...
missourimuskyhunter
Posted 1/5/2007 12:22 PM (#230173 - in reply to #230061)
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Location: Lebanon,Mo
i have heard that a bait maker around chautauqua lake,ny. custom makes 25" trolling lures and catches monsters out of that area. but what do i know....
Scott
Posted 1/5/2007 2:31 PM (#230198 - in reply to #230173)
Subject: RE: When is big too big?


Actually Chautauqua lake has been known for many years as the lake to use 24 inch trolling lures on. I fish it alot and use 2 ft cranks myself from time to time and yes I do catch muskie on them. Not always as big a muskies as you would think either. Muskie have eyes way bigger than their stomachs.
Billy B
Posted 1/5/2007 2:37 PM (#230200 - in reply to #230061)
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Location: Ft. Wayne, Indiana
If a 12 inch bass would eat a 13 inch believer, a musky of almost any size would eat that thing.

Billy Brumett
ShaneW
Posted 1/5/2007 2:46 PM (#230204 - in reply to #230061)
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Location: Verona, WI
Ulbian,

Your challenge is you need a lot more hooks with that bait. When I make baits I want to minimize the area on a bait that a musky can bite and not get hooks. That bait has got to be 2 foot long and has only two hook hangers. I would be afraid that that bait would get hit and the fish would never even get hooked.

Shane
guts
Posted 1/5/2007 3:22 PM (#230217 - in reply to #230061)
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dude, you might just want to drop the bait it the water start up the boat drive a little ways and start reeling it in.
missourimuskyhunter
Posted 1/5/2007 3:23 PM (#230218 - in reply to #230061)
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Location: Lebanon,Mo
hey Scott!! i would like some info on the lake if you would please tell. i was born just east of there and havent fished it since i was a kid (im 30 now) and im going up to fish it in july sometime. anything would help. you can email me at [email protected]


ulbian
Posted 1/5/2007 6:04 PM (#230264 - in reply to #230061)
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Shane,
I have more eyescrews that will go into that thing. It's just a matter of getting the weighting down and placing them properly. Actually though, without weight in it, she runs fairly decent for a bait that is 28 inches long and weighs over 5 pounds.
ShaneW
Posted 1/5/2007 9:52 PM (#230309 - in reply to #230061)
Subject: RE: When is big too big?




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Location: Verona, WI
Gotcha - I just saw the two hook hangers there and wondered if that was going to be enough. Have you tried that bait without the tail? I have been curious how much the tail adds to the aciton of baits like that versus just the normal weighting of the lure.

Shane
Guest
Posted 1/5/2007 10:23 PM (#230318 - in reply to #230061)
Subject: RE: When is big too big?


I don't know when big is too big, but from my experience, bigger is not always better, at least not on my waters. I'm can imagine that it might be elsewhere.

I've seen and heard too many stories about bigger fish being caught on smaller lures. Day in and day out, I do much better with medium sized baits.

But...nothing is more pleasing to the eye than a well done billy club sized bait. It is kinda fun trolling one and imagining what just might happen.
ulbian
Posted 1/5/2007 10:41 PM (#230320 - in reply to #230061)
Subject: RE: When is big too big?




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The evolution of this bait is pretty amusing. My brother made it sort of as a joke. I keep telling him to make bigger stuff all the time. Bigger copies of current baits. 20-24 inch suicks (old rounded style of course). A creeper that has a 20 inch wingspan. Etc. He's been making his own stuff to save money, and because he is a woodworker by trade. Gets an unlimited supply of wood scraps to make baits out of. He copied a manta, weighted it slightly different, and came up with something that just skims below the surface with alot of belly roll but with certain twitches you can get the thing to do a dive/rise. That's what he copied here. He wanted to make me a gigantic DDD but the detailing of it (tail fins, oval body shape, etc.) was proving a bit difficult on a short time window. So he made this thing, which is basically a giant Manta with the elements of his own knock off. He's still working on a 30 inch long DDD and they both would be intended to be ornamental. I open the thing on Christmas and I look up and say "I'm going to throw this #*^@ thing." The next day I head out to a farm pond of ours that stays open pretty much year round and begin making casts with it. Quite impressed at the action it has at it's size and it just needs to be fine tuned. Not sure what it will be like without the tail on it but from what I saw so far I'm not too concerned at this point. After seeing the action it had the wheels started turning to do other 25-28 inch baits basically modeled on popular stuff already...only made out of wood. Mostly as gag gifts. As you can see the paint scheme on it isn't all that delicate but my 4 year old nephew is the one who painted it so it's pretty darn cool if you ask me.

Grunt Lures
Posted 1/5/2007 10:48 PM (#230322 - in reply to #230061)
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Location: Minnesota
Ulbain,

May you catch something bigger than this with that bad boy! I assume you have a Simano Tiagra or something like it to work that lure with? lol

http://www.glumbert.com/media/fishing

James
Guest
Posted 1/6/2007 1:29 PM (#230384 - in reply to #230061)
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Man thats a big fish!!!!
Nightmareuplugged
Posted 1/9/2007 12:33 PM (#231095 - in reply to #230061)
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I actually held that thing in my hands yesterday. I gotta say, pretty sweet!
J Nail
Posted 1/24/2007 12:16 PM (#234095 - in reply to #230061)
Subject: RE: When is big too big?




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Location: Bemidji, MN
I read a study on musky feeding preference once. Well, they figured out that a musky can eat a fish that can be over 30% of it length (if I remember correctly it might be even a bit higher). On a 50" plus fish, do the math, they can eat a big friggin bait, I think its more limited by how big a rod we want to tow the things with than by the size lure they will eat.
Big Perc
Posted 1/24/2007 12:21 PM (#234098 - in reply to #230061)
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Location: Iowa
I hear that Musky Mania came out with a 20" Jake...anybody know if there is any truth to this...I had a 19" Talonz once...what a sweet looking bait that was, ran like a champ too...I just don't have the type of water to justify a lure like that...for me I won't go any larger than about 14" but there is a show this weekend and I hear they will have some super pounder dawgs there...we'll just have to wait and see if my impulsive buying doesn't result in one of those...

Big Perc

C.R.A.Z.Y
Cowboyhannah
Posted 1/24/2007 4:03 PM (#234148 - in reply to #230061)
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Location: Kronenwetter, WI
Put a "WELCOME" on it and put above the door to your cottage!
sputterbug
Posted 1/24/2007 4:21 PM (#234155 - in reply to #230061)
Subject: RE: When is big too big?





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Location: Kentucky
Are you adding dive planes and a periscope?
RiverMan
Posted 1/24/2007 9:15 PM (#234188 - in reply to #234155)
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Location: Oregon
When is big too big?

When no one will buy it from you!

RM
3511richardb
Posted 1/25/2007 8:39 AM (#234236 - in reply to #230061)
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Location: the Netherlands
If the Mrs. complains it's defo to big

Richard


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