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Message Subject: Trolling Spinnerbait
Brad
Posted 9/7/2006 12:00 PM (#208216)
Subject: Trolling Spinnerbait





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Here is a trolling spinnerbait I've been toying with. It weighs in just over 9 ounces. I'm using a #8 willowleaf right now. I tried a Mega blade from Stamina, you get a lot of thump but it pulls lke a twelve bottom plow & you better have a reel that can bring it in without having to stop the boat. I'd be interested in what you think, good or bad. Thanks.


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EsoxRookie
Posted 9/7/2006 12:31 PM (#208221 - in reply to #208216)
Subject: RE: Trolling Spinnerbait





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Location: milwaukee
Looks like great work.

What's the thinking on not having the wire arm rigidly connected with the lead head? Is that a common construction for a 'trolling' spinnerbait?
Brad
Posted 9/7/2006 2:33 PM (#208231 - in reply to #208216)
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I don't know if the non-rigid arm is common. The reason I did it was I wanted to test the lure before I started modifying (destroying) the lead mold to accept the wire frame. After running the lure, I decided I liked the way it ran with the wire attached with a 3X split ring. Now I'm trying to decide if the extra pivot point is beneficial or harmful.
Musky Snax
Posted 9/9/2006 3:03 PM (#208477 - in reply to #208216)
Subject: RE: Trolling Spinnerbait





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Location: Muskoka Ontario,Canada
Brad, it's very helpful having the wire arm not attached to the lead head. When a fish strikes, the wire arm can now move out of the way increasing hookups significantly. trust me on this advice, I put a lot of thought into spinnerbait design recently.
uptown
Posted 9/9/2006 3:46 PM (#208481 - in reply to #208216)
Subject: RE: Trolling Spinnerbait




Posts: 432


Location: mpls
If you plan on doing any trolling where there are "floaters"(weeds on the surface), you'll want to have the arm in line. The way you have it now, you'll end up not being able to shed any weeds that make their way down to the arm. Also, by not having the arm at the "nose" you are increasing the chances of collecting weeds as well.



Just my 2-cents from experience trolling spinnerbaits.
Joe
Musky Snax
Posted 9/9/2006 5:17 PM (#208488 - in reply to #208216)
Subject: RE: Trolling Spinnerbait





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Location: Muskoka Ontario,Canada
Totally agree on those points.
guts
Posted 9/9/2006 10:22 PM (#208499 - in reply to #208216)
Subject: RE: Trolling Spinnerbait




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i like them arm thingy or not i think they look nice
esox50
Posted 9/11/2006 5:16 PM (#208761 - in reply to #208216)
Subject: RE: Trolling Spinnerbait





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I think by not directly attaching the arm to the head you would add more thump and wobble, maybe more wobble. You might also be able to extend the life of the lure by not having to worry about the wire breaking after lots of use.

I would, though, agree with the others on the weed comments. Although, a quick remedy there would be to place a weedguard above the bait.
Brad
Posted 9/11/2006 7:39 PM (#208784 - in reply to #208216)
Subject: RE: Trolling Spinnerbait





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Thanks for all the ideas. I never had thought about the weed issue. I think I might leave it as is & use a big, old, dull, treble attached to the top of the leader as a weed guard.
tuffy1
Posted 9/12/2006 6:37 AM (#208835 - in reply to #208216)
Subject: RE: Trolling Spinnerbait





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Location: Racine, Wi
Brad, that is a great looking bait. I think that with the arm attached like that, it might track straighter all the time instead of having to tune it if the arm is running to the left or right of the bait. Nice job!
Perfect Drift
Posted 9/19/2006 3:53 PM (#209981 - in reply to #208216)
Subject: RE: Trolling Spinnerbait




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I bought some material to start making some too.I,m wandering what gauge wire to use and how to twist it.And two do you pour your own heads or can you get those...
Brad
Posted 9/21/2006 7:03 PM (#210322 - in reply to #208216)
Subject: RE: Trolling Spinnerbait





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The wire I use is 0.062" and you can get the molds from Do-it Molds. As for bending, I have a very high tech and accurate tool I made - it's a block of wood with nails stuck in it with the heads ground off. Then I apply a lot of elbow grease. I'm trying to find out if the Hagen's coil twister can handle 0.062" wire. Does anybody know?
Guest
Posted 9/21/2006 8:26 PM (#210333 - in reply to #208216)
Subject: RE: Trolling Spinnerbait


No. .041 max
JAW Baits
Posted 11/10/2006 8:01 PM (#220311 - in reply to #210322)
Subject: RE: Trolling Spinnerbait




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Brad i bought a wire bending roundnose made by Knipex it works mint!!

http://www.knipex.com/index.php?id=783&L=1&grpID=4&ukat=greif03
JAW Baits
Posted 11/11/2006 6:53 AM (#220335 - in reply to #208216)
Subject: RE: Trolling Spinnerbait




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Have you tried it with a trailer/stinger hook? Might be a good idea......
Brad
Posted 11/13/2006 3:23 PM (#220720 - in reply to #208216)
Subject: RE: Trolling Spinnerbait





Posts: 169


I do use a trailer on them now. I found a huge 10/0 treble at a local store & I attach it with .051" wire and run it back just to the edge of the skirting. Thanks for the pliers link, I might have to give them a try.
Capt bigfish
Posted 11/13/2006 5:58 PM (#220750 - in reply to #208216)
Subject: RE: Trolling Spinnerbait




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Hi Brad, Would you have any data, personal experience and/or seat of the pants engineering on your trolling spinnerbaits? I am interested in depths this type of bait runs at various speeds and line out. To be more specific, how heavy a spinnerbait has to be to run 15 feet down with 60 feet of line out at 4 mph gps speed? My guess is 6- 8ozs. I would like to narrow it down a little more. Thanks
Guest
Posted 11/14/2006 2:25 PM (#220892 - in reply to #208216)
Subject: RE: Trolling Spinnerbait


nice looking baits
Brad
Posted 11/16/2006 12:23 PM (#221234 - in reply to #220750)
Subject: RE: Trolling Spinnerbait





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Capt bigfish - 11/13/2006 5:58 PM

Hi Brad, Would you have any data, personal experience and/or seat of the pants engineering on your trolling spinnerbaits? I am interested in depths this type of bait runs at various speeds and line out. To be more specific, how heavy a spinnerbait has to be to run 15 feet down with 60 feet of line out at 4 mph gps speed? My guess is 6- 8ozs. I would like to narrow it down a little more. Thanks


It would be a complete guess but I would say, with the willow blade, the bait (about 10 ounces) would get down to 12-15 feet. I plan on figuring that out a lot more come spring, since the water here is turning hard.

I do have a couple extras on hand if anyone that does a lot of trolling would like to try out (either now or in the spring). The only catch is that you would have to report your findings back to me and run them at different speeds, amount of line out, and try to destroy them. If anyone is interested, please let me know.

I would like to thank everyone for the compliments & opinions/ideas.
willey
Posted 12/16/2006 6:07 AM (#225981 - in reply to #220750)
Subject: RE: Trolling Spinnerbait


my 10 ounce safety pin spinnerbait (T-10) is down 10 feet, 4mph, 50' line (3' leader) 80# superline, jw
willey
Posted 12/16/2006 6:14 AM (#225982 - in reply to #225981)
Subject: RE: Trolling Spinnerbait


for a view of T-10---------
www.willeysbucktails.8m.com
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