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| Is it hard to get 10,000 fingerlings if you are a private club? How many fish do most hatcherys produce each year? |
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Location: north central wisconsin | Wow dude, that is almost $100,000.00. Wish our club had that kind of ching. I think alot of hatcheries could accomodate you, though you'll need to get your order in early. |
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| What state are you putting them in???? |
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | You'll be hard pressed to get 10,000 fingerlings in one shot from one fish farm. Figure that 10% of the fry that is stocked in the spring make it to fingerling size. Fish farmers often get lower yields then that due to the fact that they're using natural ponds instead of drainables (usually).
Here's the issue we have buying fish in MN. The fish farmers get their fry from the DNR. Then around August they bid on the state contract to stock for the state. When private clubs put orders in with these guys before they commit their fish to the state 1. The state has to spend more money for fish then they would normally have to and 2. Often times there isn't enough to fulfull the states requirements.
In past years the private sector hasn't been able to fill the states contracts so lakes were shorted. To make up for it some clubs are buying fish from these same fish farms to put into the lakes the fish farms were supposed to stock under their contracts. The state pays $7-8/fish and the clubs get nicked for $10/fish. When you factor that in, you can see how these guys would rather sell to the clubs instead of to the state. I know it sounds stupid, but that's what has happened.
The TC Chapter doesn't commit to any fingerlings from fish farmers until their bids are in. That way the DNR who has WAY more resources then all the chapters combined can get the best deal and get the biggest bang for the buck.
Sorry if this got long. I could go on for another 10 paragraphs if you'd like to get even more into the subject. |
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Location: Athens, Ohio | Best, now, to buy them in-state:
Report: Federal ban on fish shipments criticized
Steelhead program, bait fish could be hit
Thursday, October 26, 2006
D'Arcy Egan
Plain Dealer Columnist
An emergency federal ruling this week could drive up live bait prices and jeopardize Ohio's extremely popular steelhead trout program.
The Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) of the U.S. Department of Agriculture on Monday banned interstate shipments of many live fish from Great Lakes states and the Canadian provinces of Ontario and Quebec. Fisheries managers around the Great Lakes are unhappy with the ruling.
The rare emergency edict was implemented, said an APHIS official, to stop Viral Hemorrhagic Septicemia (VHS), a saltwater virus that found its way into the Great Lakes.
Over the last two years, VHS has been blamed for the deaths of sheepshead in Lake Erie, round gobies in Lake Ontario and muskies in the Detroit River and Lake St. Clair.
The emergency order by APHIS has far-reaching implications.
It prevents Ohio from trading channel catfish with Michigan for steelhead trout, the prime ingredient for Ohio's famous cold-water fishery.
Local bait dealers say it would drive up the price of baitfish, injuring a billion-dollar sport fishing industry, and could put small Ohio tackle shops out of business.
Cleveland-area bait shops get the majority of their emerald shiner minnows from Buffalo, N.Y.
The fathead minnows sold at shops on inland reservoirs are predominantly shipped here from Minnesota and Wisconsin, according to wholesaler Gene Cizmadia of Crawlers Unlimited in Hinckley. Those shipments are now banned under APHIS guidelines.
"This has been simmering for a long time," said Ray Petering, the head of fisheries management for the Ohio Division of Wildlife. "The Great Lakes states have been crying for 15 years about the ballast water of ocean freighters introducing invasive species to the Great Lakes. As of today, APHIS has done nothing.
"Then VHS shows up for a couple of months, and wham, we get a federal order and can't move live fish within the Great Lakes states."
Great Lakes fisheries managers had asked APHIS to remain on the sidelines as the Great Lakes Fisheries Health Committee studied the VHS problem, said Petering. The ban announced Monday surprised officials and the fishing tackle industry. Ohio officials are scrambling to figure out how to maintain the steelhead trout fishery.
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| Throw an offer at the IA DNR, they seem to have plenty of fish to sell or trade to other places |
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Location: In the slop! | Guest, that is an issue that is going to be addressed in the near future. We need those fish in Iowa waters. |
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | I'm pretty sure that the MN DNR won't allow out-state muskies coming into our waters. |
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Location: north central wisconsin | Mikie, the hammer already officially came down this week. We were going to be getting $8,000.00 worth of Mississippi fish for Petenwell study. Got the call from our biologist that as of Monday there will be no cross state fish trading of any kind in the great lakes states due to the vhs. They are working with labs to get the testing process up to date so the virus can be tested for. Till then, no leecher study for WI. that said, we are thankful that steps are being taken so this virus(foundnow in Huron for the most part) cannot spread. |
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| does anyone have a link to this virus to read up on?
thanks
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| Haven't looked at it but, here's what's on the USDA site.
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/publications/animal_health/content/printa... |
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| Hey Treats,
No, good info, preach on if you'd like  |
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