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Pointerpride102
Posted 9/29/2006 11:09 AM (#211597)
Subject: Glide Baits in current....





Posts: 16632


Location: The desert
Anyone have any tips/tricks on working glide baits in a decent current? I am fishing while standing in the water so its tough to work the rod in a downward action, since I'm usually up to my waist in the water. Any ideas appreciated!


Mike
TJ DeVoe
Posted 9/29/2006 12:24 PM (#211621 - in reply to #211597)
Subject: RE: Glide Baits in current....




Posts: 2323


Location: Stevens Point, WI
Ya, don't fall in Mike! Remember how cold that water was when you fell in the river last spring! If you use a perkette or Perka then you can jerk the rod up and still get the bait to glide very well. Otherwise with the same baits you can also use the reel to make the bait glide. Do quick half turns with reel and you can really make that Perka or Perkette dance! But be careful doing so, don't wanna lose your balance. Good luck if you head out, I'll keep in touch with you and let you know if Aroz can catch one this weekend.
Steve Van Lieshout
Posted 9/29/2006 12:54 PM (#211627 - in reply to #211597)
Subject: RE: Glide Baits in current....




Posts: 1916


Location: Greenfield, WI
The "quick half turn method" will work on Slammer Drop Belly Gliders as well.
ulbian
Posted 9/29/2006 12:55 PM (#211628 - in reply to #211597)
Subject: RE: Glide Baits in current....




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TJ...thought you didn't like fishing from shore and only did the boat thing?
Nice thing about rivers in general is you are not affected by weather nearly as much and spots recycle alot quicker. I know a river rat who will fish a section of the WI River by anchoring infront of a known eddy and spent hours upon hours casting at the same spot until something goes.
Mike...you've caught them down there before, you'll catch them again. I think if you refer back to the convo we had a few hours ago it might give a good starting point without having to use glidebaits.

-Bob
River_Muskies
Posted 9/29/2006 1:53 PM (#211635 - in reply to #211597)
Subject: RE: Glide Baits in current....




Posts: 157


Location: Collegeville Pa
I spend 95% of my time on rivers and I fish glide baits all winter. Some baits like Mantas, Hellhounds, Musky Treats work very well with the rod tip up. Since I wade a lot also, I deal with snags by keeping the rod up and giving it slow taps upward. The bait will ride high and stay out of wood and rocks on the bottom. It also lets me fish the bait slower which is key in winter.

Greg
muskie! nut
Posted 9/29/2006 3:27 PM (#211650 - in reply to #211597)
Subject: RE: Glide Baits in current....





Posts: 2894


Location: Yahara River Chain
Maybe Brad Nelson will have some tips for you on how to save your cell phone if you go under.

As far as glide bait. We are always told to use the proper lure for the proper conditions. This condition sounds like you can't use a glide bait. You might want to try something else?
BenR
Posted 9/29/2006 3:41 PM (#211651 - in reply to #211597)
Subject: RE: Glide Baits in current....


I would use them at the top eddy's casting down stream. You could keep the glider bait in one spot and back your way down through the pool without having to recast. The same way salmon boats work a pool. It worked for me with an all white undertaker being my best bait...Ben
muskyboy
Posted 9/29/2006 5:07 PM (#211667 - in reply to #211597)
Subject: RE: Glide Baits in current....


Glide baits work great in rivers and high current areas, and I prefer a slow sexy glide that drives the muskies wild. Sometimes muskies hit and miss, zig when you zag, but stick with them and they will produce.
Kazmuskie
Posted 9/29/2006 6:29 PM (#211681 - in reply to #211597)
Subject: RE: Glide Baits in current....




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I wasn't in any current when I was doing this, but I was wading over waist deep in a lake. I wasn't working a Glide bait either, but I was working a Dunwright Topdancer (walking the dog). Take it for what it's worth. I did latch into one that night (why haven't I tried it since?). OK, here goes. I'd make my cast and turn to the side. Picture a clock with your bait now at 12:00. I'd turn to face about 1:00. Then I would snap the rod and walk the dog just like normal except the rod tip would move to the side, from 12:30 to 1:30, but never past 2:00. I could work the Topdancer just like I was in a boat or standing on a rock, dock or whatever. Reason I turned to the side like I did was to insure I was in as good a position to set hooks as possible. You can still step back (Right foot towards 7:00) and set really well like this, but set to the side (Not up) and rotate your hips. Hope this helps.
Pointerpride102
Posted 9/29/2006 7:24 PM (#211690 - in reply to #211597)
Subject: RE: Glide Baits in current....





Posts: 16632


Location: The desert
Thanks for all the tips. Went out today but didnt toss any gliders. The suick got the nod tonight. Didnt catch anything though...should have went with a glider!


Mike
TJ DeVoe
Posted 9/29/2006 10:12 PM (#211720 - in reply to #211597)
Subject: RE: Glide Baits in current....




Posts: 2323


Location: Stevens Point, WI
Ulbian, I fish from shore, don't start that! LOL! It's hard fishing from shore when all summer you are used to hooking the boat up and taking off! You know what I'm talking about, the shore thing really cuts down on your choices and being in a boat also means less dealing with inconsiderate people on the shore! But otherwise, the shore fishing presents a new challenge for catching muskies, which can be fun at times but also very irratating sometimes. But whether the option comes down to fishing or not fishing whether it be from a boat or from shore I will be fishing every time I can!!! You can count on it!
Dacron + Dip
Posted 9/29/2006 10:34 PM (#211724 - in reply to #211597)
Subject: RE: Glide Baits in current....


There are a coupla gliders demonstrated poolside in the Video section on this site, and more than one of the dude's selling them repeat 'I can work it just using the reel,' these might be worth a look. Good luck and ya, don't get wet!
MuskieMedic
Posted 9/30/2006 9:57 PM (#211821 - in reply to #211597)
Subject: RE: Glide Baits in current....





Posts: 2091


Location: Stevens Point, WI
I actually wouldn't worry too much on the river with what bait you are using, these fish are going to be real tight to cover in most cases in an ambush type pattern a good part of the year. Most any bait put in front of their faces will result in fish. I agree the Manta is one of your best baits for ease of use when you are wading, you should be able to use your reel to do the work for you. When faced with this situation, try a higher gear ratio reel and make sure you have the spool full. One quick turn should make it glide pretty good.
Reef Hawg
Posted 10/2/2006 1:29 PM (#212061 - in reply to #211597)
Subject: RE: Glide Baits in current....




Posts: 3518


Location: north central wisconsin
We like to use gliders in the river, and it definately seems to matter at times which lure you are using out there(wish it did not). I use all types of gliders, but prefer round shaped ones in heavier current and flat sided models in less. The round ones respond better, and will not be forced to the side as easily in the current, allowing you to do what you like with them. The exception to this would be the x glide by h20 or the phantom. For some reason, those two really work well in heavier current. Otherwise, it is Reef Hawgs, Jerkos and some custom Rylures for the heavier stuff, and nitros, phantoms, and other drop belly type lures in the eddies and slack waters. I never use mantas, but would suspect they'd work well in the current too. Your suick, if tuned right will glide in and out of the heavy current too. I would like to get one of the new Slow Tease lures, as a friend said they really glided/bumped along nicely in the current.
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