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Location: Appleton,WI | Just was woundering who a good company is for plastic injection of bait bodys is ?
Who deals with who?and why? |
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| Mike Richardson
Bradrock Baits
www.bradrockbaits.com
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Location: minocqua, wi. | i have access to a plastics injection molding company in china. i'll be there starting thursday of next week and will be in contact with them during my trip. a buddy and i have something up our sleeve.
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| Why China when there is plenty of companies stateside?
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Location: minocqua, wi. | why not? |
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Location: Janesville | Why employ people inthe states and they can make them cheaper there. I say you can sell them there also in china.  |
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| Specifically why? Example:
What is the difference in the profit margin per unit by using China instead of stateside? What is the quality difference? Better, worse... Etc...
Just a question
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Location: Appleton,WI | how is $0.75 per lure sound compared to $2.00 plus molds when your talking $5,000-$10,000 for a injection mold here and no tooling charge in china big differance how many baits would you have to sell to make up the $10,000 cost of the tooling? |
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| I'm not in the bait making business. Just curious.
I know much of the injection moulding went to Mexico a few years ago. I guess China is now the place to make cheap baits.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | 'Cheap' is a poor word to use if one means 'inexpensive'. |
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| a buddy just rejected a 12000 lure run built in china. goood luck. i buy north american or do without. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | So Mexico would be OK, right? |
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| what i mean is u.s. or canada products. even though pradco has been in mexico for over 20 years i prefer the above in fishing lures. |
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Location: Appleton,WI | ill second the mexico thing better than china but not better than USA. |
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| If a lure is assembled in the US but molded in China does it say so on the package?
What popular brands are molded in China?
What popular brands are molded in US?
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| All injection molded products from Llungen, ERC/Drifter, and Cady's Stuff are molded in the USA. Illinois to be specific....
Buy American! |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | THE difference is making the trip, having business connections there and spending the time with them helping them to understand the expectations. you CANNOT be successful there at arm's length, but can really do some creative things with them as partners if you invest in the relationship. they ask how they can do something instead of telling you why they can't ... it's a refreshing difference if you know what i mean.
those that hate or reject another culture without understanding it's value will be left behind in the long run. a sci-fi thriller is happening on this planet .... and we haven't even turned on the set. we've had it good a long time while the rest of the world has been changing all of the rules while we've been paying welfare checks and expecting to be "entitled" to be compensated to support our "lifestyle" .... the day of reconning may not come during our lifetime, but i believe we are heading for some major "adjustments" ....
oh, and it has nothing to do with the labor rate and if you've been conditioned to think that .... there's more to the story. |
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| Bitten Tackle baits are molded in the US also........... |
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| From what little I know from working a little bit in the industry as far as injection molding goes, Mexico was really the first inexpensive option to US production, as was the case with many products. Their quality standards were at first a joke, but have definately come along way to being on par with the US. Of course as their QA measures have gone up, their cost benefit has also decreased. Next came China, who is also still going through the same progression of quality/cost. India is now trying to break into the market with even lower prices, but along with some of the most inconsistent QA.
"Muskie Fishing and the Global Economy" someone should do a paper on this subject. It would be interesting to see how the influx of foreign made baits has effected catch ratios in a dollar per muskie analysis.
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| funny thing is, i've bought a heckuva lot of poor quality baits made in America.
must be those crappy American workers right?
or might it have very little to do with culture/country, and more to do with the standards the company holds it's producers to? or should i say: the standards that American companies do or do not hold their producers to? |
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Location: Lake Vermilion Tower, MN | How is it that you are dead set against baits made over seas yet 99% of the rest of your equipment is made over seas.
Motors, rods, reels, tackle boxes, PFD's, electronics and alot more. I don't care who makes them, as long as they work.
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