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Posts: 3242 Location: Racine, Wi | Baldy, I'm wondering if you could possibly put some sort of rubber over the knot to "cusion" it when going through the guides. I was thinking like a shrink tube, but then being the genious that I am,  you probably shouldn't heat the line, so all you have to do is see if there is something similar that may help? Not sure if it's worth the effort though, as it doesn't seem like the others are having any issues. Seems like it would help smooth things over though if you could find something. | ||
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tuffy1 - 3/21/2006 6:57 AM Baldy, I'm wondering if you could possibly put some sort of rubber over the knot to "cusion" it when going through the guides. I was thinking like a shrink tube, but then being the genious that I am, you probably shouldn't heat the line, so all you have to do is see if there is something similar that may help? Not sure if it's worth the effort though, as it doesn't seem like the others are having any issues. Seems like it would help smooth things over though if you could find something.Tried exactly that last night...we think alike man. Thought I had enough finesse to melt the heat shrink and not damage the line...no chance there. May look for another option, but doesnt sound like I need to worry too much. | |||
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Posts: 2754 Location: Mauston, Wisconsin | Baldy- I don't think the knot going through the guide is a major concern. When I had a fluoro leader loop cut by the superbraid last summer there was some discussion here about tieing fluorcarbon to superbraids . I tried several different knot's (suggestions from other MF members) , combinations of knots. I found that a double nail knot (cinch knot) worked the best. You need to make your fluoro leader ~ 6 " longer than normal, i.e., so you have enough material to work with to tie the flouro to the superline..... It's easiest if you use a nail knot/knot tieing tool like the Tie-Fast to tie your cinch/nail knots (they call it a Gryp-Knot). http://www.tie-fast.com/Magnum%20Knot%20Tyer.htm I use both the regular and the magnum size. The magnum works best with heavy fluorocarbon, i.e., above 50lb. First leaving a 6' tag end of Fluoro sticking out, tie the super line to the fluoro with a nail knot then tie the fluoro to the super line with another nail knot. Then tighten the two knots together, trim off the ends, add a drop of super glue. Here's the original discussion thread - there is a photo of the finished double nail knot that I use. http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=21... You can also make your own cinch knot tool with two nails, a piece of wood and some electrical tape. It works the same way as the Tie-Fast tool. I used a 6" piece of lath, two 8 penny finishing nails. You need to file and polish out the the grip ridges on the nails before you drive them into the end of the lath. Space the nails ~ 1/4" appart. Then clip off the heads and smooth & round the ends with a small file or sand paper. Wrap the nails with electrical tape as shown in the photo below. I find this homemade tool is more comfortable to use than the Tie-Fast when I'm making lots of knots/leaders. I still carry my tie-fast tools in the boat because they are little more versatile for tieing on jig's, etc. Have fun! Al Attachments ----------------  Knot Tool 004A.jpg (32KB - 142 downloads) | ||
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Baldy: Herbeck turned me on to this about a 1 1/2 ago. since then this is all I use....I have not had one knot fail or break...nor have I had any guide problems with my rods but I have all of my rods built to the tip with number 10 eyelets. this helps and aids in casting smoothness. Also like everyone else said the clicking sound really helps for the night fishing senario. Plus where you fish you would want to run long flouro leaders so when big heavy rolls up in the line she doesn't get to badly tore up. hope this helps.  | |||
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