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| TV fishing shows....videos...etc..
What do you look for?
What makes a good show? Is it big fish caught? Numbers? How about the excitement of the fisherman? Do you want to learn? Would you prefer to see a TV fisherman on a trophy water or would you prefer to see them on the lakes you fish?
Not planning on any TV for me I'm just wondering the general opinion.
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| I wish TV shows would talk about the multiple types and styles of baits more, intead of the then ones that sponser the shows or the ones that the TV host sells. |
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| When watching a show or a video I want to learn something. Why are they fishing certain spots with certain lures during different times of the year. Show a portion of a lake map and explain why it holds fish. Show how you modify lures to make them better, and stuff like that. Seeing fish caught is great, but I want to know what structure the fish was on and why and what triggered him to hit. |
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| I also want to learn something when watching a show. I want to know the exact reason why they are fishing that particular spot and with what lure. I also love to see good action as far as topwater hits. They are the best to watch!
BrettC |
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| Education - Education - Education |
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| Amen on the topwaters. Even if they don't hit the bait you get excited. |
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| I guess I want the best of both worlds to be educated and entertained. Show us different methods and then show how they catch with the host catching fish using that method, but at least once during the show have a musky hit a topwater bait (it gets the heart pumping).[:sun:] |
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| I'm w/ M Alan...want to learn but need the host to bring excitement, drama + intrigue into the room via the TV....the giddiness + anticipation of the upcoming day...feel the chill of the morning dew as you race to the first fishing spot...one should feel the elation + thrill of hooking, fighting + releasing a fish....as well as share the rod breaking, tackle throwing, floor stomping don't tell anyone agony of a lost trophy.....stop wearing jumpsuits decorated like Mr Goodwrench...should be able to bring out all the emotions of the viewers w/in the length of the video....by the end of the show the viewers should be drenched in sweat + able to collapse + fall off the couch in exaustion; arms sore, legs wobbly...this is the way it should be! And to me the In-Fisherman Videos do just that....bring the fun + excitement into the family room + leaving an after glow long after the show has ended...thanks for asking......[::)] [:sun:] |
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| I have to agree with Alan and Sponge. I want it all in one package. Both exciting footage and the opportunity to learn something without having a particular lure of family of lures pushed down my throat. The In-Fisherman stuff seems to fit that bill the best. I do enjoy most all the shows and videos out there but will go out of my way to watch In-Fisherman muskie shows.
my .02 worth
Fred J |
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| I HATE it when the "fish catch" is obviously faked! I'm tired of seeing a fake hook set followed by..."There's a fish."....NO, there's an idiot who thinks I'm gullible.
I'm also sick of those underwater camera shots of obviously played out fish.
I'd rather watch a program like Bassmasters with live footage showing actual situations. ESPN and ESPN2 get my vote for best video content.
In-Fisherman TV gets my vote for educational contenet.
Beav |
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| I'd like to see something a bit different, too much same-ness in many of these shows. The agony of defeat angle is definately cool, lose a few big ones on national tv and you'll be more like the rest of us. I'd like to see the Lindners take the Crocodile Hunter out muskie fishing - jump right on top of one of those follows instead of some wussy Figure 8 trick and you'll have prime time viewers switching channels. m |
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| I'm with the Beav on this one. You watch a whole video of some guy talking about the boat side figure 8, and how important it is to finish each and every cast. He will show you the cast and the figure 8 about 4 or 5 times with no fish, and all of a sudden there is a break in the action and they come back and he has a fish hooked up, he tells you it hit right at the boat.
YA RIGHT!!! GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!!!!![:knockout:]
Most important is to teach HOW & WHY!!![:bigsmile:] |
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| Education - definitely.
We've all been fishing long enough to know that you don't catch fish all the time. What I want to know is why they are doing what they are doing. What put them there in that spot using that technique. If their original technique doesn't work what's next and why?? I want to know the thought process.
Watching them catch fish is OK but alot of them are patched in too.
Scott |
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| I agree with Jason on this....it gets SO TIRESOME watching fisherman plug their sponsors product with no real clue if that is what they like to use. Tell us what category of lure you're using and few types you actually use not the party line....but I guess that is what pays for the shows most of the time.
I do like In-Fisherman shows....they really have an excellent blend of education and fishing action. It would be nice to know exactly how long they fished on a trip to put together the "action" shots you actually see.
Perhaps, overall statement: just be honest about what you use, how you use it and gives us some action.
BrianW |
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| What I don't like is a show built around a sponsor. Some lure companies own fishing shows and the show is built around the products. That's insulting to me. I like shows that are not soley driven by the sponsors, they have better content and diversity to how and where they fish, thus giving a better avenue to learn. Waters and Wood is such a show and I would rank the Fishing Guide along there too. Midwest Adventures is not bad either. |
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| I always like the type of shows where they talk about what lures to use in different situations, different presentations, how to adjust to the conditions. I like the shows that teach you a lot and it doesn't hurt to have a big fish on to add excitement. I don't really know of any muskie shows that I get other than bucher and in fisherman |
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| Todd-
I'll disagree with you on this one. Woods and Waters not being sponsor driven?? I just watched it this morning. And, although I do like some of the guests, I think Maina a riot, the only 3 things I heard this morning was Zip Lure, Yamaha and Frabill. I think I must've heard John say "We've got a tip up on your Frabill tip up..." about 20 times. Then, they're out there slamming walleyes on live bait and he spits out "Do you think I can catch these walleyes on my Bitzer Creek Zip Lure?" and for the majority of the show they show him riding up to the flags on his Yamaha four wheeler. I usually don't watch Woods and Waters for that reason but was exceptionally bored this morning.
Thanks again for the tails, can't wait to use them. Love that pink one.
Scott
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| I've done a little In-Fish TV stuff, and the trips are usually three days.
Here's about what it's like.
The fishing is pretty much like I do every day, we talk about were we are and why we are there, lures, weather, and things that we think are going to help people catch fish. This is pretty much what we talk about any way, as we are trying to catch fish.
The camerman sits there with this great big camera on his shoulder, and hopes to hell he doesn't miss the shot or his batteries go dead. When we are casting he's got the camera on most of the time following most of the casts as he has no way of knowing if and when a fish will happen to hit. He also films every thing from eagles flying, turtles sitting on a rock, deer standing in the water, etc., and both the people in the boat doing what every they are doing. He's usually a pretty pooped boy at the end of the day, and ready for a cold one.
We generally fish hard, and cross our fingers and hope to die that a nice fish will bite. If we happen to get lucky enough to catch a fish, the fish and as much of the strike to net footage as possible is shot, but we really don't do much more than that. Sometimes you get lucky, and get the strike and a nice jump or something exciting happens while fighting the fish.
After that the acting starts (I'm not much of an actor, as Doug Stange can tell you), and you will spend a quite a bit of time recreating what just happened. This will amount to putting the camerman on shore and running off and then returning so he can shoot the boat coming up to the spot, and perhaps you casting along what ever it was you were fishing.
Then we might show in detail the lure used, and how it was worked, we might talks more in detail about the type of structure you are fishing and why you were fishing this spot, and so on until the camerman and Stange are happy with what we shot and said. The camera allows them to "roll-back" the tape and take a look at what they have. By and large this part of it is a big pain in the you-know-what, and usually kills half and hour to 45 minutes when you should be fishing (you just caught a fish, and you know they are turning on).
Then at the end of the three days and if you are lucky 4-5 fish and maybe one or two decent fish they take many hours of film and hack it into a 10 minute segment. Most of what you do ends up on the cutting room floor.
There's an In-Fish coming on March 9-10 that shows me and Stange Trolling up a muskie or two, we filmed three days to get what will be seen on TV.
We are going to film again next summer, I'll see if I can't loose a nice one on TV, no acting involved!
Doug Johnson
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| Theedz, your right he does promote the heck out of frabile for sure, sometimes to the point of being annoying. The thing is though it does not dictate his show, where he fishes or what for pretty much. He is basically doing the same thing he was before the sponsor.
In-Fisherman is probably the biggest show that does not get sponsor oriented. |
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