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greenduck
Posted 12/9/2005 8:42 AM (#168215)
Subject: Rubber tailed gliders? Spastic Nitro? Which do not inhibit action?




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I'm looking to give a rubber tailed glider a shot next season. I have liked the rubber bulldawg baits and the like for some time now. I have been happy with rubber tailed choppers like the S. Burt. My concern with the gliders is the tail inhibiting a lot of the action. Is this a legitimate concern? Do these rubber tailed gliders retain a good eratic action?

I'm going to be purchasing a Spastic Nitro. Any comments on this baits action are welcome. Thanks.

Edited by greenduck 12/9/2005 8:44 AM
Muskie Treats
Posted 12/9/2005 8:46 AM (#168216 - in reply to #168215)
Subject: RE: Rubber tailed gliders? Spastic Nitro? Which do not inhibit action?





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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot
I'll be producing mine in larger quantities this winter. Look for them here in Jan. I'm sure a few people here can comment on the action.






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BALDY
Posted 12/9/2005 8:57 AM (#168218 - in reply to #168216)
Subject: RE: Rubber tailed gliders? Spastic Nitro? Which do not inhibit action?




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The Treat is a great bait. I prefer the large one, but the little guy has some nice moves.

I'm stupid for not throwing it more.

I use the Squirko too.
tomyv
Posted 12/9/2005 9:04 AM (#168219 - in reply to #168218)
Subject: RE: Rubber tailed gliders? Spastic Nitro? Which do not inhibit action?




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Location: Washington, PA
I absolutely love the spastic nitro.
7Islands
Posted 12/9/2005 9:15 AM (#168222 - in reply to #168215)
Subject: RE: Rubber tailed gliders? Spastic Nitro? Which do not inhibit action?




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Location: Presque Isle Wisconsin
The tail has to be small enough to allow the side to side glide action.I know Roger from H20 baits has got the right ratio on the Spastic Nitro. Greenduck I noticed in another post you were wondering how to convert followers into hitters on glide baits.Ive mentioned this before on Muskie first ,but here it is again:I use the drop belly style glider almost exclusively and this is what has worked wonders in my boat.Instead of a steady repetitive tap tap type retreive try casting the bait out and give the lure a short fast pull and a 5 to 7 second pause Repeat back to boat.A drop belly glider will make an S figure movement in the water when pulled in this fashion.This combined with the pause creates a series of great triggers in the retreive.Ive done this over many seasons and its one of the deadliest retreives Ive ever used.The drop belly glider should be weighted neutrally or have a slow sink rate.Rogers weighted Nitros or the Hughes River Shakers have worked the best for me.This allows for a glide bait to more effective in warmer water situations and as far as my own experience is far better even in the cold water periods. Hope this helps.
MikeHulbert
Posted 12/9/2005 9:42 AM (#168231 - in reply to #168215)
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Location: Ft. Wayne Indiana
I really like the Squirkos and the Extreme Phantoms.

jeffyd
Posted 12/9/2005 10:05 AM (#168236 - in reply to #168215)
Subject: RE: Rubber tailed gliders? Spastic Nitro? Which do not inhibit action?


I tried Doug Kloet's Slippery Slider in 2005, and found it to be the gliding-est of the rubber-tailed gliders I've tried to date.
mikie
Posted 12/9/2005 11:30 AM (#168245 - in reply to #168215)
Subject: RE: Rubber tailed gliders? Spastic Nitro? Which do not inhibit action?





Location: Athens, Ohio
Those Treats can dance like drunken prom dates. Excellent baits.
I've had fish follow that will twitch side to side each time the bait does.
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Beaver
Posted 12/9/2005 11:50 AM (#168250 - in reply to #168215)
Subject: RE: Rubber tailed gliders? Spastic Nitro? Which do not inhibit action?





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I'll be making a Swimming Tail Perka this year.
I only use a 5" Kalin grub on the back end so that the resistance of a bulky tail doesn't inhibit the action of the glider. You get the long glide, if you want it, or a short glide if you work it faster, but you still get the action of the original glider.
I did the same thing with some Castors last year, and the prototype produced a personal best for a Cass Lake guide.
These will have a bigger profile, and a tail that only costs you 10 cents to replace, so you can change colors when ever the urge strikes you.
I have a pic of the prototype.
Beav


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BALDY
Posted 12/9/2005 11:53 AM (#168251 - in reply to #168250)
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Beaver - 12/9/2005 11:50 AM

I'll be making a Swimming Tail Perka this year.
I only use a 5" Kalin grub on the back end so that the resistance of a bulky tail doesn't inhibit the action of the glider. You get the long glide, if you want it, or a short glide if you work it faster, but you still get the action of the original glider.
I did the same thing with some Castors last year, and the prototype produced a personal best for a Cass Lake guide.
These will have a bigger profile, and a tail that only costs you 10 cents to replace, so you can change colors when ever the urge strikes you.
I have a pic of the prototype.
Beav


well, lets see the pic Beav...
BALDY
Posted 12/9/2005 11:54 AM (#168252 - in reply to #168251)
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that was fast
Jomusky
Posted 12/9/2005 12:01 PM (#168255 - in reply to #168252)
Subject: RE: Rubber tailed gliders? Spastic Nitro? Which do not inhibit action?




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Location: Wishin I Was Fishin'
Make sure you ask Roger about the lipped Nitro with a rubber tail. He just got a few done at the end of the season, word is they have a very wide wobble.
River_Muskies
Posted 12/9/2005 5:55 PM (#168271 - in reply to #168215)
Subject: RE: Rubber tailed gliders? Spastic Nitro? Which do not inhibit action?




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Location: Collegeville Pa
I also really like the Musky Treat. Every one I have glides like a dream and really moves fish. Make sure you put the right tail on. I traded for one that had a Magambo Tail it did not glide at all. Switched to a burdee type tail and now it glides perfect.

Best on the market in my opinion.

Greg
Grass
Posted 12/9/2005 6:25 PM (#168275 - in reply to #168215)
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Location: Seymour, WI
Squirkos are good.

Grass,
RiverMan
Posted 12/9/2005 7:24 PM (#168277 - in reply to #168215)
Subject: RE: Rubber tailed gliders? Spastic Nitro? Which do not inhibit action?




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Location: Oregon
I haven't noticed a bit of change in the action so long as the tail isn't too big. The action imparted by a tail on a glider adds in a big way to the realism too. When you say an "erratic action" I'm not exactly sure what you mean. My gliders and I suspect the others posted here as well maintain a good side to side action with the tail in place.


jed v.
www.bikinibaitcompany.com



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Tim Kelly
Posted 12/10/2005 4:47 PM (#168340 - in reply to #168215)
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Location: London, England
Putting a reaper tail or sluggo on the back of a glider doesn't effect the glide much but you get a nice kick out of it as the bait turns. Certainly less reduction in the glide than a twister tail and a different look as well.
mskyhntr
Posted 12/10/2005 5:12 PM (#168343 - in reply to #168215)
Subject: RE: Rubber tailed gliders? Spastic Nitro? Which do not inhibit action?




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Where can you get Musky Treats?
theedz155
Posted 12/11/2005 5:29 AM (#168373 - in reply to #168215)
Subject: RE: Rubber tailed gliders? Spastic Nitro? Which do not inhibit action?





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I've seen the new Hawg Teasers from Hawg Seekers. They'll be out over the winter I believe.

All I can say is "Wow". They'll be worth the wait.

Scott
theedz155
Posted 12/11/2005 5:30 AM (#168374 - in reply to #168215)
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Duh! Stupid Computers...

Edited by theedz155 12/11/2005 5:31 AM
Luca Cattin
Posted 12/13/2005 11:37 AM (#168614 - in reply to #168215)
Subject: RE: Rubber tailed gliders? Spastic Nitro? Which do not inhibit action?





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Location: Padova - Italy
I've used small grubs as tail in my gliders in the last years with a lot of success.
You can add little tails to the normal gliders also, as show in the bait below.

Someone probably remember about this baits.

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