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Message Subject: Guides freezing
Matt Collins
Posted 12/2/2005 9:21 AM (#167295)
Subject: Guides freezing


What are some measures you can take to prevent guides from freezing up? I've heard PAM cooking spray works.
mikie
Posted 12/2/2005 9:47 AM (#167302 - in reply to #167295)
Subject: RE: Guides freezing





Location: Athens, Ohio
Don't pay them till the end of the day and they will stay flexible for you through your guided trip.
I've never sprayed a guide with Pam, it would prolly piss him off unless it was Cady, who would likely enjoy it.

See: http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/photos/show-album.asp?albumid... for a photo of a half-frozen guide.
m

MuskieMedic
Posted 12/2/2005 9:58 AM (#167304 - in reply to #167295)
Subject: RE: Guides freezing





Posts: 2091


Location: Stevens Point, WI
Reel Magic works pretty good too.
ESOX Maniac
Posted 12/2/2005 9:59 AM (#167305 - in reply to #167302)
Subject: RE: Guides freezing





Posts: 2754


Location: Mauston, Wisconsin
I was thinking along the lines of Mikie's response-> that's what the get paid to do!

Seriously chemicals may have a detrimental impact on your expensive muskie rods. Try doing deep figure eight's, i.e., where the guides are fully submerged . The immersion will make it easier to pop the ice chunks out of the guides.

Have fun!

Al
lobi
Posted 12/2/2005 10:02 AM (#167308 - in reply to #167295)
Subject: RE: Guides freezing





Posts: 1137


Location: Holly, MI
funny mikie.

I used to winter steelhead fish drifting spawn and our guides would ice up quite a bit. We found that simply stuffing the pole underwater and swishing it around it would melt the ice. The air was below freezing but the river was about 38 deg.
VMS
Posted 12/2/2005 10:02 AM (#167309 - in reply to #167295)
Subject: RE: Guides freezing





Posts: 3510


Location: Elk River, Minnesota
Mikie...you beat everyone to it.

I was going to suggest RV antifreeze....in a spray bottle.


I think it is inevitable that the guides will freeze up. But.. I wonder if a light coating of gun oil on the guides would at a minimum reduce the water build up.

Or...if you change your line at the end of the year...a light coat of grease on the guides...

Steve
pete_k
Posted 12/2/2005 11:17 AM (#167324 - in reply to #167295)
Subject: RE: Guides freezing


I tried pam this moring (14 F) didn't work too well. I ended up doing a dunk the rod and cast fast deal that worked ok. I"ll try Reel Magic next.
Beaver
Posted 12/2/2005 11:51 AM (#167331 - in reply to #167295)
Subject: RE: Guides freezing





Posts: 4266


Keep multiple rods ready so you can switch up.
Submerging the rod will take care of it. Afterall, the water isn't frozen.
I know when we walleye fish on The Mississippi River early in the year, we always have extra rods ready, and when one would freeze up we would lay it down and pick up a fresh stick. Did I mention that we keep a Mr Heater on a 20 lb cylinder going on one side of the boat and set the rods on the opposite side? A 20# cylinder fits right into one of those plastic milk crates perfectly, so that it has a stable base and won't tip.
Beav
RiverMan
Posted 12/2/2005 12:02 PM (#167333 - in reply to #167295)
Subject: RE: Guides freezing




Posts: 1504


Location: Oregon
Submerging the rod works for one cast! And, even tho you submerge the rod the ice will often still hold on to the eyes until you break it out. When it gets that cold, it's better to switch to a tactic that doesn't involve alot of casting.........e.g. trolling or bait fishing.

Jed V.
Matt Collins
Posted 12/2/2005 2:28 PM (#167349 - in reply to #167295)
Subject: RE: Guides freezing


Thanks for the suggestions. Jed, considering that on the last two trips out, 9 of the eleven muskies I've caught have been on figure eights, I have to continue to do what has been working for me(casting). Better yet, maybe I'll just let out enough line to continually figure eight for the whole day.
guest
Posted 12/2/2005 7:51 PM (#167387 - in reply to #167295)
Subject: RE: Guides freezing


WD-40
Donnie3737
Posted 12/3/2005 8:55 AM (#167427 - in reply to #167295)
Subject: RE: Guides freezing


Every ten minutes or so, or depending on how fast the guides are freezing up, bend over, stick your rod up to the last guide, and reel while ripping yourrod back and forth...you mihgt actually catch a fish this way too !!
RAZE1
Posted 12/3/2005 1:45 PM (#167442 - in reply to #167295)
Subject: RE: Guides freezing





Posts: 938


Location: NeverNever Lake
Try brushing on some olive oil. Wipe up excess with a dinner roll. It works! And it's enviormentally friendly......
MuskieMike
Posted 12/3/2005 6:31 PM (#167455 - in reply to #167295)
Subject: RE: Guides freezing





Location: Des Moines IA
I smoked two Bling,Bling, reels today, in less than 1/2 an hour, and they weren't even mine! Whoops!!! It was cold today in Indiana, mid 20's (Webster). Hit the old c3, premier, MH up! Did good til after lunch, and the entire reel seat FILLED WITH ICE!, Rod guides were full of ice all day too. ALot of work, but it was worth it!
BNelson
Posted 12/4/2005 5:03 PM (#167509 - in reply to #167295)
Subject: RE: Guides freezing





Location: Contrarian Island
Why doesn't a rod builder build a rod with heated line guides? put the c or d batteries in the butt of the rod and run the wires up thru to each line guide...seems like it would be easy for someone to do/build if they knew what they were doing and you could sell at least one to EVERY musky fishermen!!! somebody build it ...we will buy it!!!
muskihntr
Posted 12/4/2005 7:45 PM (#167527 - in reply to #167295)
Subject: RE: Guides freezing




Posts: 2037


Location: lansing, il
used reel magic this weekend, it worked to a point but ice still built up, just not as fast!
mikie
Posted 12/5/2005 5:48 AM (#167568 - in reply to #167295)
Subject: RE: Guides freezing





Location: Athens, Ohio
OK, book mark this: a straight answer from mikie!

Go with a heavy monofiliment line for cold weather casting. Mono will not take on the water like the braided lines and will be kinder to your guides and reels in that regard. Whew! I got thru it! m
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