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| I'm gonna try flourocarbon leaders this year and see what happens.
Before I order anything I have a few questions:
80# or 100#?
Is there a brand thats any better than any of the others?
Snaps:
I'm going with the stay-lok snaps
#3 or #4?
What kind of knot do you use to tie on the snaps?
Thanks
Jeff
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| this just came up about a month ago with the same questions, you might get alot of helpful info if you can find it in the search mode,,their were some good responses |
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| Thanks, Hooker, but I just get that "this page cannot be displayed" message whenever I try to search old topics.
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Location: London, England | A 4 turn "nail knot" works very well with heavy mono/fluoro leaders. Simple to tie and doesn't cause any difficulties when snugging it down. |
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| I use 80 # Seaguar. It is expensive but you can make alot of leaders out of a 30 yd spool. I use a uni knot to tie on snaps and a double uni if I am tying direct to the main line. The uni knot is a small but strong knot. Make sure to wet the knot well before cinching it down. |
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Location: ontario canada - Well Anderson Indiana now | Hey essox, yea I brought this up a few weeks ago, to sum it up it sounds like 80# seaguar is the most common used, some guys use the 100# but it seems to me that the 80# will be perfect. I just ordered some today so it will be interesting to see if there is an increase in hookups and follows. Another note...I've read that using fluorocarbon on gliders is a bad idea because it sinks quickly and pulls the front of the lure downward, I'm not sure if that's really the case, it would be interesting to hear from some others on that subject.
Good luck!
Doug Market |
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Location: oswego, il | Seagar is good, climax is supposed to be the best but is very expensive. I just bought some vanish leader material and it's 1/2 the price and I figure it must be pretty good if guides have been using it. I like the middle sized stayloc snap. Not sure what one it is, the biggest one is very big. 80 and 100lb are both good, the nail knot is the best one and put a drop of superglue on for insurance. |
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| I run a 24-30" fluoro leader and was throwing the Hellhound 2 weeks ago up north and I didn't have any problem with it affecting the action of the Hellhound or fouling the leader. I had heard that fluoro leaders weren't good for gliders also but it worked for me. BTW 7/8 fish I moved were on the Hellhound. |
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Posts: 1270
| Does everybody tie the leaders or does anybody use crimps? I have been using crimps with 100lb. Vanish because I could not get a know that didn't look so huge with line this heavy. |
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Posts: 2015
| I use double-barrel crimps and in my opinion 80lbs is too light - it cuts easily with nailclippers - I use 100# for light lures (6" jakes, candy spins, ect) - 180# for everything else |
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| I like the Climax from Cortland. It now comes in a 10 yard package that is enough for me to tie up a bunch of leaders. I use the 80lb and 100 lb. Uni-knots do the trick for me. Been using it all last year and so far this year with no bad experiences. |
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| Hi addict,
I was chatting with Tom Hulbert and I believe his brother Steve makes flourocarbon leaders and sells them. I would try and get a hold of one of those guys. That might be the way to go.
Thanks
Dave |
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| Todd Minor made me 80 pound (casting and trolling) and 60 pound (jigging) Flourocarbon leaders that I am testing. I am testing to see if they really make a difference or not in clear water systems. I am also testing mono leaders as well. For trolling, mono or flouro seem to be the way to go. |
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Location: Germantown, WI | I've been using fluorocarbon leaders on about half my musky outfits for the past year. I can't say if I have had any more strikes because of it, but I have not had any less strikes and no failure or bite offs. I made mine from 80# Vanish using Staylock snaps. I tie the fluorocarbon to the both snap and the swivel using a Palomar knot and have not had any problems. My biggest fish to date using a fluorocarbon is 43".
Tom Ramsey
member Milwaukee Chapter Muskies Inc. |
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| Thanks everyone!
So I think I've got this down:
-80# is ok, 100# is better
-stay lok snaps (#4's are the second largest size)
-Uni knot to tie to the braided line
-palomar to tie on the snap
Jeff
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Location: Minneapolis | Until last year, I loved fluorocarbon leaders. Now I'm not so sure. I used 80# Seagar and liked it a lot until I had a fish inhale a Rad Dog spinnerbait and shred the leader about 3" above the snap when I set the hook. Not good.
This year I've replaced my fluoro leaders with Tyger leader. Absolutely no complaints so far. Tyger Leaders are stranded stainless with a plastic coating. They're extremely flexible, more so than equivalent test fluoro, very thin diameter, tie easily (easier than fluoro, and still no crimps), and are bite proof. Expense is a downside. It runs about $10 for 10 feet. Tyger leader material doesn't have the invisibility of fluoro, but I think it's better in every other way.
My $0.02,
RP |
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