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JohnMD
Posted 6/28/2005 12:38 PM (#152028)
Subject: Big Fish, What's Changed





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Location: Algonquin, ILL
There have been a lot of BIG fish reported so far this year across the Muskie world ( What will Fall Bring ?) so I was just wondering what has changed for this to happen, Cath & Release, Better Muskie Management, Better educated anglers, Better equipment, Weather Conditions, more access to web sites,

What's your thought?

Beaver
Posted 6/28/2005 12:48 PM (#152031 - in reply to #152028)
Subject: RE: Big Fish, What's Changed





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I think that catch and release has a direct effect.
I'm betting the 50+s would have been bonked at 40 just years ago.
Now the lakes are paying back the deposits that we've all made.
Beav
esoxaddict
Posted 6/28/2005 1:28 PM (#152039 - in reply to #152028)
Subject: RE: Big Fish, What's Changed





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1. increasing awareness of C&R
2. increased size limits
3. last year sucked
4. more fish being reported than ever before

Let me explain #3

I don't know about you guys, but last year was the worst year I can remember for fishing. The weather was off, water temps were off, the fish (all species) weren't where they were in past years, weren't biting when they should be, weren't relatong to the same structure... It was an unusually cool year, with some unusually WARM temps well into the fall. It might not have been the best year for catching fish, but it was a great year for BEING a fish. I'd suspect single season growth rates last year were far above average, along with colder water temps, and fewer people catching fewer fish = bigger fish this year.
ToddM
Posted 6/28/2005 4:40 PM (#152073 - in reply to #152028)
Subject: RE: Big Fish, What's Changed





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Location: oswego, il
I think one reason you are hearing about big fish in southern wi and south have been the mild summers. That has changed now, the bigger fish will have to live in the stressful water temps they have not had to be in for a few years. I really believe it's played a big roll with the bigger fish and defintiyl how fat poepl have been seeing them compared to past years, prior to '01.
esoxaddict
Posted 6/28/2005 4:46 PM (#152074 - in reply to #152028)
Subject: RE: Big Fish, What's Changed





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Todd, that's interesting. Do fat people really catch more muskies??

sorenson
Posted 6/28/2005 4:56 PM (#152076 - in reply to #152028)
Subject: RE: Big Fish, What's Changed





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Location: Ogden, Ut
I hope so...
K.
cross
Posted 6/28/2005 6:45 PM (#152089 - in reply to #152028)
Subject: RE: Big Fish, What's Changed


ToddM, thanks, i will forward your info to my wife. she will happy to hear i have advantage this weekend.
cross
Fishwater1
Posted 6/28/2005 7:09 PM (#152091 - in reply to #152028)
Subject: RE: Big Fish, What's Changed


Clearly not... look at all the chubbies who blanked at eagle river
MikeHulbert
Posted 6/28/2005 7:25 PM (#152093 - in reply to #152028)
Subject: RE: Big Fish, What's Changed





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Location: Ft. Wayne Indiana
Muskies, just like all other fish go through cycles in different lakes.

Last year, my numbers here in Indiana were up, but size was down. This year, size is up, and numbers are up, why... sure things like catch and release definately help, but lakes and muskies go through cycles. Look at Cave Run this year. Last year that lake was SIMPLY ON FIRE March - May. This year, it totally sucked down there. Did the fish die, did they magically swim away... no, just a cycle. Kinkaid this year has been awesome, numbers are up, size is up... in my opinion, it is going through a good fish year. Who knows, it could last another year, or it could totally bomb out next season.

Also musky fishing is growing by leaps and bounds every year. More and more anglers are hitting the water with hopes of landing and releasing that fish of a life time. So it is also by the number of fisherman out there, that there will be more big fish caught.

Also the age of the internet is BOOMING as we speak. More and more people are learning how to post reports, photos, etc... so we obviously hear about them more often than in years past.

Look at Cave Run this year. Last year that lake was SIMPLY ON FIRE March - May. This year, it totally sucked down there.

Some years are good, for numbers, some are good for size, and some like 2005 has been is both good for numbers and size! Now lets just pray it keeps going through December!

firstsixfeet
Posted 6/28/2005 9:45 PM (#152105 - in reply to #152074)
Subject: RE: Big Fish, What's Changed


esoxaddict - 6/28/2005 4:46 PM

Todd, that's interesting. Do fat people really catch more muskies??

;-)


No, you missread his post. He said fat people were seeing more, not catching more.

Muskiefool
Posted 6/28/2005 9:58 PM (#152108 - in reply to #152028)
Subject: RE: Big Fish, What's Changed





Log in troubles and bad memories LOL
ToddM
Posted 6/28/2005 11:12 PM (#152116 - in reply to #152028)
Subject: RE: Big Fish, What's Changed





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Location: oswego, il
Say what you want. 3 mild summers and the summer fishing had been really good. Guys on the mad chain were catching fat fish during the summer to their amazment. Fat 50+ fish coming from pewaukee when these fish used to be all skinny and far and few between. What changed? The summer did. With that said though, mild summers do help the fat people cope with the day and catch more fish so there may be something to that.
fishwater1`
Posted 6/29/2005 12:39 AM (#152122 - in reply to #152105)
Subject: RE: Big Fish, What's Changed


1 word - Lasix.

The fish were always there - they just couldn't see 'em
muskyboy
Posted 6/29/2005 5:49 AM (#152123 - in reply to #152028)
Subject: RE: Big Fish, What's Changed


Local lake conditions
Weather
Catch and release
Higher size limits
Another year of growth
Who knows?
muskynightmare
Posted 6/29/2005 6:37 AM (#152126 - in reply to #152028)
Subject: RE: Big Fish, What's Changed





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Location: The Sportsman, home, or out on the water
I agree with the C&R and the "last year sucked" statements.
MACK
Posted 6/29/2005 8:52 AM (#152134 - in reply to #152093)
Subject: RE: Big Fish, What's Changed




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MikeHulbert - 6/28/2005 7:25 PM

Muskies, just like all other fish go through cycles in different lakes.

Also musky fishing is growing by leaps and bounds every year. More and more anglers are hitting the water with hopes of landing and releasing that fish of a life time. So it is also by the number of fisherman out there, that there will be more big fish caught.

Also the age of the internet is BOOMING as we speak. More and more people are learning how to post reports, photos, etc... so we obviously hear about them more often than in years past.




I think Hulbert nailed it there with his points; cycles, more people are fishing this species, more are becoming more educated via guides and internet, you're able to see/hear/read more about fish being caught due to the internet and of course...CPR helping as well.
jonnysled
Posted 6/29/2005 12:55 PM (#152175 - in reply to #152028)
Subject: RE: Big Fish, What's Changed





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Location: minocqua, wi.
lake cycles, this season is warmer, education of anglers, catch and release and reporting of catches
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