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| I have a calcutta 400 now and was thinking of upgrading to the new 400b with the 5 to 1 gear ratio. would it be better to upgrade for throwing bucktails med to larger ones and for depthraiders and triple d's or is it better to keep the gear ration I have. thanks for the imput.  |
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Location: WI | If your burning bucktails the lower gear ratio is going to be better. But for cranks and gliders and jerks the higer gear ratio is going to pick up the line faster. |
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| I thought higher gear ratio - the faster the retrieve - wouldn't I want the fastest retrieve possible for burning bucktails? |
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| Shane is a bit backwards. I would take the 5.0:1 for bucktails and the 4.7:1 for dealing with the larger stuff. Retrieving those bigger baits will be a bit easier with the lower gear ratio reels. Burning your bucktails will be easier with the higher gear ratio reel.
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| I have always used resistance as the guide for reel selection. For example if I'm throwing a heavy, big bladed spinnerbait with lots of thump or a big lipped crank I use a reel with a lower gear ratio to keep my forearms from frying. Usually I would use my 7000 C3 (4.7 to 1) because the lower gear ratio decreases the resistance and the bigger spool size picks up plenty of line.
On jerks like suicks, reef hawgs, phantoms that I work more with the rod tip and am reeling in slack line I go to a higher speed reel like a 6500 C4 (6.3 TO 1) which allows me to pick up slack line faster. I also can use the C4 if I want to burn a rattle trap bait or small bladed bucktail.
For everything in between I use my reels with around a 5 to 1 ratio. This is just my own guideline and it seems to work for me. Good fishing................. |
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Location: WI | Nope I had it right, think of it in terms of a 10 speed bike. The higher gears allowed you to move the pedals much faster with but with more effort, usually used for starting out and going up hills. The lower gears were were used mainly when you got up to speed to give you more top end speed.
The higher gear ratio on a reel allows you to reel faster so it allows you to pick up the slack quicker like you want for gliders and cranks.
The lower gear ratio allows you to retrive something easier at a sustained speed, which is why you would use it more for burning bucktails.
I do know people who use higer gear ratio reels for burning bucktails and they will work fine, but after a day of doing it you feel like your arm is going to fall off. Wheras using one with a lower winch type gear makes burning all day alot easier
The lower gear ratio will actully pick up more line per turn but the reason I wont use them for gliders and cranks are that I cant work the handle as fast as I need to.
The Abus are a perfect example the 7000 C3 with a gear ratio of 5.3:1 picks up 27" of line per turn.
Whereas the 6500 C4 with a gear ratio of 6.3:1 picks up 25" per turn.
Back to the 10 speed analogy, if I wanted to get going from a dead stop I would use the higher gears/similar to picking up line while working a jerk bait/glider or crank I am doing alot of starting and stopping.
But if I wanted to get going really fast after I have got up to speed I would drop it down to a lower gear for sustaining and increasing momentum with less effort once I got going/ Similar to burning a bucktail pretty much a constant sustained retrive.
Like I said you can burn bucktails with a higher gear ration just fine, but your going to feel like you arms going to fall off if you do it too long. Similar to trying to ride a bike in a high gear, sure its going to get you where you are going but your going to be alot more tired.
Likewise I can start my bike in a lower gear and it will still get me to where I need to be but its alot easier to use a higher gear and work the pedals really fast from a frequent start and stop situation.
Edited by Shane Mason 5/24/2005 3:09 PM
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| OK Shane, now you've got me confused. First, lets compare apples to apples instead of apples to oranges. In other words, lets compare a 6500 C3 to a 6500 C4 and leave out the 7000 C3, which is a different animal with a larger spool. The 6500 C3 picks up 23" of line per handle turn compared to the 6500 C4 at 25". The reel with the higher gear ratio (C4) retrieves more line per handle turn.
Now, I would agree that using a C3 for burning bucktails is far easier than using a C4, especially with larger bladed bucktails and large spinnerbaits. And, I would say that burning bucktails with a C4 all day is tiring. But, the original post was asking about an old Calcutta versus the new B-series Calcutta. Neither of these reels could be considered a high-speed reel. So, using a new Calcutta B (which is still geared lower than a C3) for bucktails certainly wouldn't be punishing. I don't think the original poster would have a problem if he went to the new Calcutta B.
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