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The Artist
Posted 4/21/2005 12:57 PM (#143957)
Subject: Natives netting Mille Lacs


If you were to visit Mille Lacs right now you would see a very ugly site. Native bands from Wisconsin with gill nets all over the place. Worst thing is the "rough" game fish are wasted.

So sad.

Bukes
Posted 4/21/2005 1:24 PM (#143961 - in reply to #143957)
Subject: RE: Natives netting Mille Lacs





And to think people actually argue about a giant musky accidentally caught out of season by a walleye guy.
bmax
Posted 4/21/2005 1:39 PM (#143964 - in reply to #143957)
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Posts: 45


Location: Brooklyn Park
I agree. don't bitch about a possible WR that remember, swam away, when who knows how many muskies are killed in these nets.

BMAXEY
BALDY
Posted 4/21/2005 1:46 PM (#143967 - in reply to #143957)
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Posts: 2378


Why the HELL are Wisconsin natives being allowed to net Mille Lacs!?!? Ridiculous

This raping of the resource by natives needs to be stopped!!

Edited by BALDY 4/21/2005 1:47 PM
esoxlady
Posted 4/21/2005 3:54 PM (#143987 - in reply to #143957)
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Posts: 223


Location: minneapolis
I made the "mistake" several years ago of observing this activity.

I guess I wanted to actually see for myself what occurs.

The visions of this slaughter are a nightmare I will never be able to erase from my memory- nor the tears that streamed down my face as these beautiful creatures were tossed like heaps of garbage

muskyboy
Posted 4/21/2005 5:17 PM (#144003 - in reply to #143957)
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So sad, I hope something can be done to change this situation in the future
woody
Posted 4/21/2005 5:39 PM (#144005 - in reply to #143957)
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Posts: 199


Location: Anchorage
This native commercial exploitation is way too out of hand. On Mille Lacs they are allotted 1/3 the total harvest on the average year while they make up roughly 1/40 of the "angling" population. Talk to your federal #$%@ing judges, not the DNR, about that.

Have come to the conclusion that I won't be seen at a fish fry anytime soon. Encourage others to think about it as well.
sworrall
Posted 4/21/2005 6:18 PM (#144015 - in reply to #144005)
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Posts: 32885


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
The resource we all share with the Native Americans was theirs from the get go guaranteed to them by a series of treaties written by our forefathers, which the federal Supreme Court recently upheld. I read that decision every year as the spearing starts across Northern Wisconsin, reminding myself where I live, the USA, under the laws of our good country.
Guest
Posted 4/21/2005 6:47 PM (#144020 - in reply to #143957)
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Who keeps going to casinos and ordering walleye, those are the guilty parties, but they only go a few times a year, blah, blah, blather, blather, stay out of casinos and eat your own walleye, you want to throw money away send it to me 50% will get there money back and one in ten will get double now those are odds so send me that cash.
rpieske
Posted 4/21/2005 7:17 PM (#144026 - in reply to #143957)
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Posts: 484


Location: St. Louis, MO., Marco Is., FL, Nestor Falls, ON
You got it wrong....go to the casinos more than ever. The money they make from the casinos is far easier money than that made from netting fish. If casinos are profitable enough, there may not be a need to net fish.

Yeah....right!
bfunk
Posted 4/21/2005 7:53 PM (#144034 - in reply to #143957)
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Posts: 16


they will slowly but surely take over that entire lake..........we used to have a fish house out of wigwam bay and they took over that......over time they moved north from rocky reef all the way past wigwam.........in time they will own st. albams bay which we are out of now at twin pines.............you think the netting is sad should watch them gaugh walleyes along shore when they are spawing...........saw that when i was a kid and its discusting
Big Perc
Posted 4/21/2005 8:33 PM (#144051 - in reply to #143957)
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Posts: 1185


Location: Iowa
This makes me sick to think how many muskies will die in those nets...I was on Mille Lacs last year and it was one of the most incredible sites I have ever seen...4 foot fish sitting in 2 feet of water like northerns in extreme northern Canada...I will forever remember that trip for this reason alone...that was the first time I had ever seen so many muskies...and big ones too...we saw one that my buddy both swear was 5 feet long...looked like a tomahawk missle in the water...I had to sit down my knees were shaking so much...

Big Perc
Guest
Posted 4/21/2005 9:45 PM (#144067 - in reply to #143957)
Subject: RE: Natives netting Mille Lacs


How many of those treaties contain any reference to casinos ? If they are going to "strip mine" the lakes,
why not update those treaties and require them to use some of that casino cash to replenish the lakes ?

The larger issue is the comingling of social and legal issues specific to one group of peoples, to the exclusion of others.

Read "Our Home or Native Land : What Canada's Aboriginal Policy is doing to Canada," by Melvin H. Smith, to see where this might be headed.






sworrall
Posted 4/22/2005 8:13 AM (#144096 - in reply to #144067)
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Posts: 32885


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
The Casino businesses are a seperate issue most of the time, but don't always have to be. Wisconsin had an opportunity to work with the Tribes on during the last Gaming negotiations, with the strong support of the angling and outdoors community.

Need to remember, the Native American tribes are in many cases pretty much sovereign nations with whom we must negotiate. Complicated stuff. The governments who wrote those treaties (I don't see the need to go into the motivation there, but it's a good idea to read up on it for clear perspective) are squarely in the center of the bulls eye for what we have now in both the US and Canada.

Here's a link to the treaties in Wisconsin and Minnesota.
http://www.fdl.uwc.edu/windian/TREATIES.HTM
http://www.glifwc.org/pub/fall99/mldecision.htm
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