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| 124teams X 15hrs per team = 1860hours/22fish = 84.5 hours fished for in most cases a sub 40 inch fish. I have never made a trip down to Cave Run but based on the last 2 PMTT tournaments why on earth woould I. |
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | I know I have made the trip and wouldn't hesitate to do it again. The Cave is an awesome fishery. Last time I was there the first day of the trip we had a four fish day. Where else are you going to do that in March?
Any given weekend on any water the fishing can be tough. Don't think its because there are no fish in that pond, it is an awesome fishery. |
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Location: Minnetonka , MN. | I have been to the Cave and would go back. I could take 2 days when Tonka was not that hot. That's why they call it fishing.  |
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Location: Algonquin, ILL | It has happened on LOTW also , There are some folks on this site who spent a whole week on LOTW and did not boat a fish, like Teck say's That's why it's call it fishing
POOP HAPPENS
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| Oh, sure, pick on me now John! hehehe
I went to the cave for the first MF outing ever. Brought the typical cold front with me, and we had one fish in the boat in 3 days. I think there were 4 fish caught that outing. But you know what? It was a GREAT trip. WHy?
#1. I wasn't working!
#2. I was fishing
#3. I was fishing with friends.
#4. I was fishing new water
#4. I was fishing Muskie when I couldn't up here
#5. I met a bunch of great new freinds, including mikie, mauser, Tony, Teck, JLong, and others.
Cave Run is a pretty good place to be before our opener. Don't sell it short. I've seen pics, and heard stories of what can happen down there.
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Location: Algonquin, ILL | Look at it this way Shep, You were just building up points for that Green Bay Monster that has your name on it
By The way how is the Sabaskong Outing comming along ? I don't see much activity on the Outing Board
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Location: Ft. Wayne Indiana | 22 fish, sure those numbers sound low, but come on dude this is musky fishing.
Why go down to Cave Run...... well lets see. Many, Many 50+ inch fish are caught there every year, their has been fish in the range of 54.5, 55, 57 caught, 10-12 fish in a weekend can and do happen, sounds good to me.
Also if you are gonna base your knowledge of Cave Run based on a spring tourney that can be hit or miss all due to seasonal weather, you obviously need to do more research. |
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| This is always an interest to me as well. I have commented on this in the past and usually get ripped for it pretty good.
I wouldn't rip on the Cave Run fishery either. This is a well documented body of water containing a good fishery. I do find it interesting that there are so many reports of multi-fish days and numerous guys catching 100+ fish a year on the internet however. Then come the tournaments. There is always a long line of excuses such as the water is pressured that weekend, the weather stunk-this one is used the most, fish were moving but not eating, etc.
Why the sudden change in results?
This IS musky fishing and I still believe it tends to be a tough gig. There have been some tournaments where there are quite a few fish caught. I've watched it close and the results at Cave Run seem more the norm than the exception. All the results are available and it would be interesting to see what the average number of fish per tournament is. I don't care enough to crunch the numbers but would enjoy reading it. Common sense seems to suggest that most of these guys are pretty accomplished fishermen on very good water. I'm just interested in weighing the results versus a lot of the weekend reports I so often see.
Bill C.
Edited by greenduck 4/18/2005 10:00 AM
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| If a guy doesnt like the "odds" then he should take up Perch fishing!
Thats what makes Muskie fishing so different. Ive gone out as many as 10 times or more with NO Muskies, not even a follow. But then gone out 5 days in a row with caught several fish each time. Ive even had a 6 fish day. Its all part of Muskie fishin! |
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Location: Washington, PA | Someone told me once that these fish were hard to catch?
The Cave is an awesome fishery. |
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Location: The Yahara Chain | You cannot judge a body of water based on two days of fishing.
The first time the PMTT came to Madison only 12 fish were caught, tough springtime conditions.
The following year they set a PMTT record for fish caught, I do believe 68 fish caught. |
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| I think greenduck may have conveyed my thoughts exactly. I also realize it is spring but if spiring is so tough and erratic and then in the summer everyone leaves because the H2O is to warm what kind of window are we looking at? |
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Location: Minnetonka , MN. | In general I find it very hard to rip a body of water unless I have fished it at least 5 or 6 times. If all your looking for is numbers of fish maybe Muskie fishing is not your cup of tea. |
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Location: Washington, PA | I love it in the fall too. Very diverse fishery, a multitude of patterns to fish, lot's of fish, big fish, what's not to love?
As far as the PMTT results. They may have something to do with Cady being there. I think he may have the ability to change the weather.
Edited by tomyv 4/18/2005 1:41 PM
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Location: Ft. Wayne Indiana | You can not base a how good a lake is on two days.
There are plenty of times when a lake gets hot, it might be for a day or two, it might be three days. Then the lake turns off.
Spring is good down there, are you going to boat 5 fish per day, every day... no, but I am sure you will have a few 4 fish days, then the lake will shut down for a day or three, then you can boat 3 fish, then maybe zero, etc..
It is musky fishing dude |
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| DJS-- good luck , don't look like you are going to get many supportive comments. But the cave has been really tough during all seasons for me the last 2-3 years . I live 1.5 hours away fished the cave around 4-6 trips last fall during oct, some rainy trips , some sunny , some in between , not a single hookup . Now go back 3-4 years and I had a 5 fish weekend. Could we turn our attention towards why the fishing has been much tougher the last 2 years . I think (only a guess) even the guides could say that 3-5 years ago it was much better than the last 2 -- the big ? to me is why ?? My theory is lack of good weeds combined with pressure has made the fish relocate. Any other opinions ? ManitouDan |
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| The reason to make the trip: 1) Big fish present 2) Year round fishery
Spring can always be tough due to local weather, BUT beats sharpening hooks in my book! |
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Location: Watertown, MN | Just getting back from the cave, it was a tough bite, this spring has been hard on most guides, I have heard that they are 75% behind in number of legal fish boated. Though spring down there no stable warming trends, 3 warm days/cold nites, then 3 days of rain has really slowed things down. It was warmer in MN than KY????????? Tough bite, many people down sizing, trolling walleye cranks on bass rods throwing bass/walleye size baits, winners throwing mag-dawgs. More fish were caught, we boated a sub on each day, and there were probably many more. I agree though that if your hunting big fish, I would probably go else were, but were can you fish in the north right now?
Good luck
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| i have heard great things about it. if you don't like your odds then you haven't boated a muskie in awhile because i know for a fact that it is well worth the wait. what a rush muskie fishin' is, it runs through my veins, i need it to survive.
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Location: Ft. Wayne Indiana | Forgot to add this last time....
A few weeks ago, there was a Muskies Inc. tourney on Webster in Indiana. 90+ people fishing for muskies, 3 fish caught. 36, 31, and a 30. Now this is Webster, the musky mecca of the mid-west. or so it has been famed as. Yes only 3 small fish with 90+ anglers, the same lake where people have recorded 10+ fish in a day, 70+ follows in a day, etc.... When fishing is slow.... IT IS SLOW. No way to get around it, but when it's on, IT'S ON!!!!! |
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| First time on this body of water for me was last weeks PMTT event. Got skunked but would go back. My partner and I decided that it was not the conditions of the lake....... we just sucked. |
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| I have been fishing the Cave since the early 90s and have found the opportunities endless.
It took us several years to learn how to fish a flood control type of lake. We also had to spend a good amount
of time learning where to fish, how deep or shallow and what baits would increase our chances. Today, I certainly do not claim to be an expert on the Cave by any mean, but I do feel comfortable there on the water. It took a long time but to some extent it's a whole new way of fishing.
Secondly, the people down there are great. Crash, Tony, Greg, Scott and all the rest gave us a warm welcome each time we
came. They were always willing to share information and offer advice What we learned about the Cave so far has a lot to do with their help and openness.
I would give the Cave more time. Remember, what you learn there can be applied anywhere. You'll engance your muskie Fishing knowledge and sooner or later put a monster in your boat. |
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