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mmusky1
Posted 10/22/2004 9:16 AM (#122243)
Subject: What Size should fish be at least in a Tournament?




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Location: South side
<p>What Size should fish be at least in a Tournament? </p>

Edited by mmusky1 10/22/2004 9:19 AM
Gander Mt Guide
Posted 10/22/2004 9:20 AM (#122247 - in reply to #122243)
Subject: RE: What Size should fish be at least in a Tournament?





Posts: 2515


Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI
whatever the lake or system size limit is
out2llunge
Posted 10/22/2004 9:33 AM (#122251 - in reply to #122243)
Subject: RE: What Size should fish be at least in a Tournament?




Posts: 393


Location: Kawarthas, Ontario
Yah, what GMG said...
nwild
Posted 10/22/2004 9:43 AM (#122255 - in reply to #122251)
Subject: RE: What Size should fish be at least in a Tournament?





Posts: 1996


Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain
I go with GMG.
BACKLASH
Posted 10/22/2004 10:30 AM (#122267 - in reply to #122243)
Subject: RE: What Size should fish be at least in a Tournament?




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You could never do that. I fish the FRV tournament on the Fox chain every year. The limit on the chain is 48 inches. In the 7 years of the tournament, I believe there has been only one fish caught that was 48 inches or bigger. It really does not matter the size as long as it is not a transport tournament.
out2llunge
Posted 10/22/2004 11:01 AM (#122283 - in reply to #122243)
Subject: RE: What Size should fish be at least in a Tournament?




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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario
<p>It does matter though! Unnecessary handling (measuring, photographing, touching ie. slime removal) of sub-legal fish doesn't help the fish's health. I'm unfamiliar with those waters, but maybe it would make sense to hold a tournament elsewhere. Why is the limit 48"? I just held a small tourney where the lake's minimum limit is 36" and any fish smaller than that (based on visual guess) are not even to be measured as they would be ineligible anyway.</p><p>Sorry I should mention that the tourney is an honour system tourney with only invited participants allowed to participate.</p>

Edited by out2llunge 10/22/2004 11:02 AM
MikeHulbert
Posted 10/22/2004 11:05 AM (#122285 - in reply to #122243)
Subject: RE: What Size should fish be at least in a Tournament?





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Location: Ft. Wayne Indiana
Why is the limit 48???? It's called Musky Protection.

Some states get it, some don't. You act like it is a bad thing IL has a 48 inch limit.

I believe tourneys all across the board should have a 34 inch limit.

Just like at the championship this year the team that won, if the size was kept at 40, they would have only boated 1 fish, not 7. They clearly knew what they were doing and schooled everybody else. They deserved to win, and thanks to the lower limit, they did.




Edited by MikeHulbert 10/22/2004 11:07 AM
Gander Mt Guide
Posted 10/22/2004 11:13 AM (#122286 - in reply to #122285)
Subject: RE: What Size should fish be at least in a Tournament?





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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI
I could see 40" on a system that has a 48" limit. Problem is how do you verify measurments? You can't hold a sublegal fish to wait for a judge boat and you cant put it in the well to trasport it.....My suggestion...Dont hold tourny's on waters where there's a 48" limit.
BACKLASH
Posted 10/22/2004 11:20 AM (#122288 - in reply to #122243)
Subject: RE: What Size should fish be at least in a Tournament?




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Mike, I am with you on this one. I can almost bet that if most the guys on this board went to the Fox Chain and caught a 46 incher, they would net it and lift it and take pictures. The 48 inch limit is for catch and release. You can't stop a smaller fish from hitting your lure.
MikeHulbert
Posted 10/22/2004 11:34 AM (#122293 - in reply to #122243)
Subject: RE: What Size should fish be at least in a Tournament?





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Location: Ft. Wayne Indiana
What do you mean you can't hold a sub legal fish?

I have a Frabil Big Kahuna, it will hold any fish, of any size and I never have to pick it up or anything.

So no worries there.
Steve Cady
Posted 10/22/2004 11:40 AM (#122295 - in reply to #122243)
Subject: RE: What Size should fish be at least in a Tournament?


Man I'm not getting involved in this one. (I'm getting so big!)

O.K. one comment. I sure wish it was about 22" so I could say I've caught one during a PMTT event!

:)
muskyboy
Posted 10/22/2004 5:08 PM (#122351 - in reply to #122243)
Subject: RE: What Size should fish be at least in a Tournament?


These tournaments should really only allow fish bigger than 36 or 40 inches, I think catching a bunch of dinks is fun but it shouldn't win a tournament no matter how tough the conditions. Like in golf keep fishing until someone catches a decent fish.
ToddM
Posted 10/22/2004 7:06 PM (#122367 - in reply to #122243)
Subject: RE: What Size should fish be at least in a Tournament?





Posts: 20258


Location: oswego, il
MI allows a fish at 30" If your not transporting it or bringing it into the boat for anything other than a pic and a measurement, what is the big deal? To me, I see alot of tourny's that get few fish caught, some just a few small ones. I think allowing 30+ would allow for more separation among the ranks in a tournament and allow for more strategies during the tournament too. Just my opinion.
kevin
Posted 10/22/2004 7:15 PM (#122369 - in reply to #122243)
Subject: RE: What Size should fish be at least in a Tournament?





Posts: 1335


Location: Chicago, Beverly
30". just like the Muskie INC rules.. I believe that even the Illinois DNR Directors Tournament on Lake Shelbyville uses that and they also use Judge boats contacted via Motorola Radios. Shelbyville has a 48" limit like most other Illinois Trophy waters and I am not sure one over 48" has ever been caught in the tournament. Fish in that Tourney are to be held in either a DNR provided Cradle, your own Cradle, or a net of sufficient size to handle a Musky. Seems to work great for them.
esoxcpr
Posted 10/23/2004 1:28 PM (#122433 - in reply to #122243)
Subject: RE: What Size should fish be at least in a Tournament?




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My opinion is that any tournament on one lake or on several lakes that all have the same size limit should use that limit for their results. If people don't think enough fish are caught using that regulation, then tournaments shouldn't be held on waters with such high size limits. The alternative for those people is to fish or hold their tourneys on lakes with lower limits. For tournaments that are on many lakes of which there are 2 or more different size limits among the lakes, the lowest limit should always be used. These tournaments should also be immediate release tournaments as some of the fish registered from certain lakes would be undersize for those lakes. There are many tournaments in Wisconsin that do this.

I fish a few that are held on multiple lakes many with different regs and a warden is always present at the pre tournament meeting to explain this. As long as the fish is never in posession and is released immediately those undersize fish on certain lakes (over 34" but less than that lakes limit) are perfectly legal in the tournament and also from a law enforcement perspective. The key is that the fish must be immediately released and never in posession. It's up to the tournament to provide adequate judges to make sure that a judge can be at the location very fast.
0723
Posted 10/23/2004 7:44 PM (#122445 - in reply to #122243)
Subject: RE: What Size should fish be at least in a Tournament?




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30 inches if the bass goto 12 inches,30 is plenty big.40 inch tourney is like an 18-20 inch bass.0723
muskiemachinery
Posted 10/23/2004 8:01 PM (#122446 - in reply to #122243)
Subject: RE: What Size should fish be at least in a Tournament?


Comparing a Bass Tournament to a Muskie tourny is like comparing a whitetail deer hunt to a Cape Buffalo safari - or should be. Totally different animals (literally)
SV

Edited by muskiemachinery 10/24/2004 9:21 AM
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