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Location: Mt. Zion, IL | I have a Cabela’s guidewear wind stop jacket that I love, but it is falling apart after 10 years of use. I tried an Aftco wind proof reaper zip up and the sleeves are just not right. They are too long and too tight and bunch a lot at the wrist under my rain gear.
What jackets do you suggest I look into? I used to be able to layer long underwear, a fleece quarter zip, insulating jacket, and rain coat to fish most of the fall until it is snowing out.
I already have an ice suit I use for late fall fishing, so I’m not interested in going with a new outer layer. |
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Location: Brighton CO. | I had a Cabela's rain jacket (not GuideWear) and I liked it. when it wore out I looked at the GuideWear and was disappointed.
Then I found my late fathers GuideWear and it was like new. My bottoms were fine I just needed a new top so it worked out.
My dad's were old but in new condition and being old were still made well. |
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Location: Mt. Zion, IL | My aftco hydronaut suit is the outer layer. I’m curious about the mid layers. The guidewear coat I have is not similar to anything currently made. BPS marketed a similar coat as an insulating layer for their 100 mph gear.
I have the base and outer layers covered. |
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| Not sure what you are looking for. What you used to wear, poly pro long underwear, 1/4 zip fleece and water proof jacket have been my go to in fall for a long time. Base layer snug to aid with venting, fleece and jacket a little large for ease of movemnt. |
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Location: Mt. Zion, IL | I am looking for the layer most shed that they wear under the gore tex to help block wind. Aftco reaper wind proof zip up is what I want, but the sleeves are smaller than my arms.
What is similar to this without the tiny sleeves?
Edited by RyanJoz 9/28/2023 3:52 PM
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| Duluth Trading sells a windproof fleece vest. Maybe that would work. I have a jacket made of the same material from Duluth that I wear when windy and cool. Truly is windproof, unlike other fleece. |
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Location: Brighton CO. | In my town they have a Turkey Trot and if you pay to run in it you get a long sleeve moisture wicking shirt (I never run in it but buy the extra shirts for 10 bucks) and they are quite warm so I use it as a base layer, then add a regular long underwear top and wool shirt, put on my life jacket and a Gortex Rain Jacket. I have other things to mix and match depending on the weather
(Fleece tops, Down vest, Wind Prof Sweaters, Hooded Sweatshirt ECT.) I'm warm blooded and have had more then one guide tell me at the end of the "I didn't think you would make it thru the day from what you were wearing" And keep your feet, hands and head warm too. With today clothing we don't have to look like the kid from Christmas Story to stay warm.
And don't fall in the Lake "do as say not as I do" |
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| I have taken the approach to vary the base layer closest to my skin. As the weather gets colder I gravitate from poly pro long underwear to heavier wool long underwear. There are a number of good brands that carry different weights. I can wear a heavier wool long underwear layer, a good fleece and outer layer of gore tex and be quite comfortable in late fall weather. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | After not being impressed with quality of Cabelas stuff lately I started getting some of my outdoor clothing from Midway USA. The quality and pricing has been great. Check them out and see if anything they offer might work. |
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| I layer like this....
LL Bean Double Layer Thermal Shirt
Pendleton Wool Shirt
LL Bean Wool Sweater (if needed)
Gortex Shell
Hard to beat high quality 100% wool layers over a soft, wicking first layer, all covered by a high quality Gortex shell.
plus
Stormy Kromer Hat
Chopper mittens w toe warmers to quickly warm wet hands
Wool gloves for running the boat
Lindy Gloves*
* Lindy gloves quickly freeze solid at temps below 32*. Once wet, store them in a gallon Ziplock with a couple handwarmers.
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Location: deephaven mn | seen alpaca hooodies beng advertised. i am thinking this would be a good idea. like mentioned a do wear a pendalton wool shirt as a base layer and realy thinking of buying a aplaca hoodie as a love the alpacca socks i have as they are 2 steps above my merino wool socks i used to wear |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Alpaca long johns, short sleeve high performance T long sleeve high performance T, high performance hoodie, insulated jeans, wind proof jacket. Alpaca sox, one pair only heavy weave. |
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Location: Duluth | Absolutely nothing beats wool.
I say it every single time this topic gets brought up, if you want real foul weather gear that is also ergonomic buy sailing stuff. Gill, Heely Hansen, Ronstan and Zhik all make stuff that will actually keep you warm and dry while doing things. Is it more expensive, yes, is it far better than ehatever Simms, Cabelas, Aftco stuff you can buy...yes.
Grundens also makes proper gear. |
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Location: Selkirk, Manitoba | Wool is the champ for this layer as for reasons stated above. If it gets wet/damp - sweat, rain, boat spray, fully immersed or otherwise, still keeps the warming qualities, where fleece (plastic) does not. Same goes for gloves/mitts. |
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Location: Brighton CO. | Moisture wicking base layer, wool, and a Gortex shell = warm all day.
Going to Cabela's today, I'll cheek out the Alpaca products. |
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| I've got a set of ragwool gloves I've been wearing steelheading for probably 15 years. Even soaking wet I'm warm. Just get some good base, mid and outer layers and you'll be fine. No cotton! |
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| Whenever you buy wool ALWAYS check the label for percentage of wool,,some company's market wool clothing and they are only 20-50 percent wool.
If anybody knows where I can find 100 percent wool gloves and pullover shirts please tell me where. |
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Location: Northern Illinois | Filson. Known for their wool, but not cheap. Gloves not 100% however (for wear). I have several of their products, but live in the lightweight wool socks in winter.
Woolrich has 100% wool gloves that might work as a liner.
Oh, also Icebreaker.
Edited by RLSea 11/5/2023 9:05 PM
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Location: SE Wisc | Checkout WoolPower USA. Best merino wool long John sets l’ve ever worn. They are pricey but last. They are hand made and have a terry looped interior which traps warm air better than the tight knitted merino that’s more commonly found elsewhere. I prefer the 400 weight. You can get away with less layers wearing this stuff so you have excellent mobility and comfort. |
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Location: SE Wisc | By the way, I don’t think you’ll find any alpaca wool clothing at Cabelas/Bass Pro!!! LMAO
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I buy socks and hats from Sabamba using this thing called the internet. They had long johns, but are out of stock right now. One can buy joggers pants which will work great and baselayer from PACA.
I have spent 56+ years ice fishing and over 40 bowhunting, and have tried pretty much everything out there to stay warm as is evidenced by a mostly unused rack of gear and expensive boots in the basement. This second season hunting I'll be wearing an alpaca base layer, alpaca hunting boot socks, flannel lined jeans from Sportsman's Guide, and waterproof, insulated, and silent outerwear by Cabelas. Still have yet to find better boots than my 7-year-old Sportsman's Guide 2000 gram side zips. I wish they still made them, mine are still very serviceable but are getting a bit worn. My ice gear is the same base layer and a pair of Clam float bibs paired with a Sportsman's Guide double-layer waterproof ice fishing coat.
Works for me, lmao aside.
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Location: Stevens Point, Wi. | Since you don't like the sleeves on the AFTCO, why don't you try their wind proof vest. It serves the purpose of keeping the core warm. I hate a lot of bulk around my arms and prefer vests anyway. |
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Location: Brighton CO. | The gal at Cabela's gave me a name of a local chain that has Alpaca socks and I will buy a high end long underwear top to match the bottoms I bought before my next trip. (witch worked great). |
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Location: SE Wisc | sworrall - 11/9/2023 10:06 AM
I buy socks and hats from Sabamba using this thing called the internet. They had long johns, but are out of stock right now. One can buy joggers pants which will work great and baselayer from PACA.
I have spent 56+ years ice fishing and over 40 bowhunting, and have tried pretty much everything out there to stay warm as is evidenced by a mostly unused rack of gear and expensive boots in the basement. This second season hunting I'll be wearing an alpaca base layer, alpaca hunting boot socks, flannel lined jeans from Sportsman's Guide, and waterproof, insulated, and silent outerwear by Cabelas. Still have yet to find better boots than my 7-year-old Sportsman's Guide 2000 gram side zips. I wish they still made them, mine are still very serviceable but are getting a bit worn. My ice gear is the same base layer and a pair of Clam float bibs paired with a Sportsman's Guide double-layer waterproof ice fishing coat.
Works for me, lmao aside.
90 + years of outdoor experience!
What brand of diaper do you wear under those long longs?!! LMAO!
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