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Message Subject: Inches per crank
jkurtkrauss
Posted 8/19/2021 8:32 AM (#984192)
Subject: Inches per crank




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My Komodo 364 is rated at 31” per crank. Is this number based on an average between an empty spool and full spool? I’m trying to put an exact amount of line on so I can maximize the braid, and not be left with a spool that doesn’t have quite enough fo a final reel fill.??

Thanks!
ToddM
Posted 8/19/2021 9:02 AM (#984196 - in reply to #984192)
Subject: Re: Inches per crank





Posts: 20218


Location: oswego, il
I believe it's a full spool but you could always mark the line and check. 31" isn't a lot of line per crank by today's standards.
RyanJoz
Posted 8/19/2021 6:28 PM (#984203 - in reply to #984196)
Subject: Re: Inches per crank




Posts: 1716


Location: Mt. Zion, IL
Definitely measured with a full spool.
BruceKY
Posted 8/25/2021 4:24 PM (#984390 - in reply to #984192)
Subject: RE: Inches per crank





Posts: 392


Location: KY
This may seem ridiculous and OCD but I have developed a system for filling reels to their fullest without wasting braid. I have a fence row in the backyard that I have marked 25 yards on between two posts. I take a 300yd spool of braid and tie it to the 1st post and walk out and back twice so that 100yds is ready. I cut the line off the spool and tie it to the reel using a small piece of tape to keep it from slipping. I reel the 100yds of braid onto the reel walking with the reel in hand always keeping tension on the line. I then tie on a cheap mono and continue filling the spool to full. Now here's the crazy part. I have two old 6500C3 reels that I use to transfer the line from reel A, to #1 C3, then to #2 C3, and back to reel A. The line is now flipped so that the mono is attached to the spool and the spool is perfectly full with 100yds of braid + mono. I could reverse the line without the extra reels by stretching the line back out on the fence then tying the mono onto the reel and rewinding it back onto the reel.

I do the same thing to flip the braid when it is faded or frayed.
RyanJoz
Posted 8/25/2021 8:56 PM (#984397 - in reply to #984390)
Subject: Re: Inches per crank




Posts: 1716


Location: Mt. Zion, IL
I do the same thing, when adding backing. I put 30 ft of mono on a new reel and fill the rest with braid. Add mono backing as the line gets cut off. When you hit the knot on a cast or can see it, start over. I get about 5 years out of the line on each reel with how I do it.
miket55
Posted 8/26/2021 7:04 AM (#985403 - in reply to #984192)
Subject: Re: Inches per crank




Posts: 1263


Location: E. Tenn
Very much the same here, but have the luxury of a nearby H.S. football field with yard markers on a chain link fence in front of the stands.. I take say... a 300 yd. spool, walk off 100 yds., tie a loop, and repeat. It is a bit of a pain rewinding the line back on to the spool by hand, but....

I finish the job at home since all my reels already have backing.

Nice to see someone else figured out the "reel trick".
Muskyrookie
Posted 8/26/2021 11:08 AM (#985411 - in reply to #985403)
Subject: Re: Inches per crank




Posts: 186


I too was trying different things to get a certain amount of line on my reels without wasting braid and have settled on this method. I have an old berkley spooling station that I put the spool on and I take a tape measure to mark off a distance ( in my case 14' ) I then take old plano box dividers and count 21 of them which will equal 294' and put them into my pocket. I take a piece of tape to attach it to the spool on my reel and give it a couple rotations to hold in place and then walk to the measured point and reel it back to the station and do it over and over again everytime taking a divider and dropping it in the pile for my count ( this ensures you don't lose count ). When I run out of dividers I have 100 yards of line ( with about + or - 10 feet ) I then cut the line and take a power drill to remove the line to an empty spool and respool it back to the reel with proper tension as you would to finish it properly. I then tie a uni to uni knot with my mono and with tension fill the reel up . After that is done I take my drill and peel it off onto an empty spool, and them put that full spool on my spooling station and take another empty spool with the drill and repeat the process of flipping the line. When that is done I tie the mono onto my spool and simply fill my reel until that spool is empty. This may sound complicated reading it but it is not after you do it once or twice. After trying different ways this is what I have settled on for a truly accurate reel fill. The key is to take the time to spool the braid with tension before filling it out with mono or you will fill your reel too much or too little. The best part is that once this is done all you would have to do to respool your reel is peel off the braid and retie new braid with whatever your connection knot of choice is and fill the spool back up to have 100 yards of braid. That mono backing will be perfectly fine for multiple fillings ( depends how much abuse you give it! ) as long as the manufacturer of your braid of choice actually puts 300 yards on the spool you will get 3 filled reels .

Their is many ways this can be done but I prefer this way because 1. I can keep my braid off the ground and away from anything that might nick it and 2. Do it inside in a controlled environment without wind being a pita and 3. Get an accurate fill to not waste braid.

Whichever way you choose just make sure that during your measuring portion of filling your reel and adding the mono that the line is tight or you will find out later that you have to much or to little. For this when I spool a reel I use a damp cloth that I tension with my fingers in addition to the tension on the spooling machine itself. Also make sure when the final fill is going on to fill to each edge of your reel!!! Very important if you don't you can almost guarantee you will have line trapped and get a backlash that will break off that fancy new bait or ol' trusty!!

This way may take a little more time than some others but it only takes 15 minutes or so from start to finish. The key is to find out what fits YOUR situation and make it work for you!
Muskyrookie
Posted 8/26/2021 11:11 AM (#985412 - in reply to #985403)
Subject: Re: Inches per crank




Posts: 186


miket55 - 8/26/2021 8:04 AM

Very much the same here, but have the luxury of a nearby H.S. football field with yard markers on a chain link fence in front of the stands.. I take say... a 300 yd. spool, walk off 100 yds., tie a loop, and repeat. It is a bit of a pain rewinding the line back on to the spool by hand, but....

I finish the job at home since all my reels already have backing.

Nice to see someone else figured out the "reel trick".


If this is you method take a cordless drill with some empty spools and use that. Alot simpler! But if your reels already have backing all you should have to do is fill them back up. You only lost a foot or so from the connection knot.
miket55
Posted 8/26/2021 5:32 PM (#985425 - in reply to #985412)
Subject: Re: Inches per crank




Posts: 1263


Location: E. Tenn
Muskyrookie - 8/26/2021 12:11 PM

miket55 - 8/26/2021 8:04 AM

Very much the same here, but have the luxury of a nearby H.S. football field with yard markers on a chain link fence in front of the stands.. I take say... a 300 yd. spool, walk off 100 yds., tie a loop, and repeat. It is a bit of a pain rewinding the line back on to the spool by hand, but....

I finish the job at home since all my reels already have backing.

Nice to see someone else figured out the "reel trick".


If this is you method take a cordless drill with some empty spools and use that. Alot simpler! But if your reels already have backing all you should have to do is fill them back up. You only lost a foot or so from the connection knot.


The methodology in the first paragraph is what I do when replacing line... The two reel trick as described by the gentleman from KY is used when reversing line.

The local sheriff dept. might take exception to seeing someone inside the local H.S. football field with with a cordless drill. Good idea tho.
Muskyrookie
Posted 8/26/2021 6:54 PM (#985426 - in reply to #985425)
Subject: Re: Inches per crank




Posts: 186


miket55 - 8/26/2021 6:32 PM

Muskyrookie - 8/26/2021 12:11 PM

miket55 - 8/26/2021 8:04 AM

Very much the same here, but have the luxury of a nearby H.S. football field with yard markers on a chain link fence in front of the stands.. I take say... a 300 yd. spool, walk off 100 yds., tie a loop, and repeat. It is a bit of a pain rewinding the line back on to the spool by hand, but....

I finish the job at home since all my reels already have backing.

Nice to see someone else figured out the "reel trick".


If this is you method take a cordless drill with some empty spools and use that. Alot simpler! But if your reels already have backing all you should have to do is fill them back up. You only lost a foot or so from the connection knot.


Lmao just out of curiosity, what would a sherriff be inclined to think about someone with a cordless drill in the middle of a football field ? ??

The methodology in the first paragraph is what I do when replacing line... The two reel trick as described by the gentleman from KY is used when reversing line.

The local sheriff dept. might take exception to seeing someone inside the local H.S. football field with with a cordless drill. Good idea tho.
miket55
Posted 8/26/2021 8:22 PM (#985428 - in reply to #985426)
Subject: Re: Inches per crank




Posts: 1263


Location: E. Tenn
Muskyrookie - 8/26/2021 7:54 PM

miket55 - 8/26/2021 6:32 PM

Muskyrookie - 8/26/2021 12:11 PM

miket55 - 8/26/2021 8:04 AM

Very much the same here, but have the luxury of a nearby H.S. football field with yard markers on a chain link fence in front of the stands.. I take say... a 300 yd. spool, walk off 100 yds., tie a loop, and repeat. It is a bit of a pain rewinding the line back on to the spool by hand, but....

I finish the job at home since all my reels already have backing.

Nice to see someone else figured out the "reel trick".


If this is you method take a cordless drill with some empty spools and use that. Alot simpler! But if your reels already have backing all you should have to do is fill them back up. You only lost a foot or so from the connection knot.


Lmao just out of curiosity, what would a sherriff be inclined to think about someone with a cordless drill in the middle of a football field ? ??

The methodology in the first paragraph is what I do when replacing line... The two reel trick as described by the gentleman from KY is used when reversing line.

The local sheriff dept. might take exception to seeing someone inside the local H.S. football field with with a cordless drill. Good idea tho.


Just being between the sideline fence, and the stadium seating with a game tomorrow night, is a pretty good bet..
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