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Location: Northern Illinois | I know they're too big for my backyard bass pond:), but are they too big for some of the smaller Wisconsin class A2 musky lakes? |
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Location: oswego, il | No, use them. |
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Location: Northern Illinois | I know you can catch fish on them on these lakes, but do you think you are reducing your chance of catching fish in the 35 to low 40 range (which for me is a lot of fun)? Meaning catch more using Mepps or single/double 8 size bucktails.
A couple of example lakes in different regions would be Hayward (LL, Teal, Ghost), N Wisc (Wildcat), S Wisc (Wingra). |
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Location: Ashland WI | Just my thoughts, but in the 35-40 inch range, you are not hurting your chances.
25-30 inch range possibly. |
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Location: Chisholm, MN | I've caught 14 inch largemouth on supermodels. No, there are not baits that are too big. |
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| Sometimes I believe anglers over think things. I don't think muskies look at lures like we look at a Mcdonald's menu, a Big Mac, a Mepps, or a Quarter Pounder, a showgirl. When a musky is aggresive, I believe it will strike a Mepps Musky Killer just as fast as it will strike a double cow girl. Just my opinion. Kdawg |
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Location: Northern Illinois | 14ledo81 - 8/25/2021 8:59 AM
Just my thoughts, but in the 35-40 inch range, you are not hurting your chances.
25-30 inch range possibly.
I kinda think you're right that there is some limit or point where it is a factor. Probably even smaller than I suspected - as you suggest. |
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Location: Northern Illinois | Both large and small fish hit both large and small lures. There are lots of factors involved: aggressiveness of the fish, fishing pressure, forage, time of year, and so on. I have tried to discourage small fish from tearing up swimbaits by going to the largest size. Nope. |
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Location: Northern Illinois | So really what I'm trying to get at is the chance for success on these certain type smalller-shallow lakes under most conditions.
I realize that you can catch a bass on Double Cowgirl and an aggressive fish will bite just about anything. But I think we are all after probability of success when fishing, and I'm wondering if on these smaller and shallow lakes if the probability of success of say catching any size muskie (say above 30" as if I'm getting skunked I would still take it) may go down if using a DC over a smaller bucktail.
I'll give just an example of the concept that I know for other fish. In my backyard pond, I have caught a couple of hundred bass on a #3 chartreuse mepps (retired it at 150 and switched to another one, and yes color does matter). If I throw a #4, I will occasionally get a fish. If I throw a #5, I almost never get hit (don't jump on this yet as I have caught beauties on #5's and musky killers on other lakes). If I threw a DC on that pond, I may get a fish if I tried it for years.
Again, think of probabilty for success on these certain type lakes and if you would miss out on fish by giving the DC more time than the smaller bucktails. |
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| Many years ago we fished 2 different Muskie sanctuary lakes, we fished them for 3 seasons after it first opened, 1993 I think, after 50 yrs. of being closed.
Both were small roughly 2 miles by 1 mile (Roughly)
Late June/early July we learned we had to stowe our "typical muskie baits" and wound up have success with #3 and #4 blue foxes and smaller bucktails.
The fishing was really good but a 42" fish was a really big one.
PS: When we back last year after 20 some years the fishing had gone down hill badly.
Too many years of folks mishandling them we think.
Saw a floating dead musky.... sad..
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| If they're hot the size of the bait doesn't matter. |
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| Similar to points above, many times I have fished DCG’s in A-2 waters targeting larger fish where all size classes are present. Nearly always I did that while others were using smaller baits looking for action / numbers.
Depends on their mood, but very often it is the DCG that produces the numbers. Lots of fish in the low to mid 30’s, those fish hit them at seemingly the same rate the larger fish do. |
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Location: Northern Illinois | FlyPiker - 8/28/2021 8:35 PM
If they're hot the size of the bait doesn't matter.
I wish they were hot every time I fish. |
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| mm3 - 8/29/2021 5:11 AM
FlyPiker - 8/28/2021 8:35 PM
If they're hot the size of the bait doesn't matter.
I wish they were hot every time I fish.
Lol. Me too! |
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| FlyPiker - 8/29/2021 11:48 AM
mm3 - 8/29/2021 5:11 AM
FlyPiker - 8/28/2021 8:35 PM
If they're hot the size of the bait doesn't matter.
I wish they were hot every time I fish.
Lol. Me too!
Where I've been fishing they have been hot just not bothered by my baits haha
But in all seriousness if you look at a DC in the water it is only the size of a fingerling trout. They put out a lot of vibration but aren't really big. Like was stated before I've had 10-15 inch bass and gizzard shad come up and bite and head butt them, curiously always in the middle of the bait just below the blades lol |
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