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Location: oswego, il | Interesting I thought Colorado discontinued stocking them. I do wish they were managed as a sport fish as opposed to a control fish.
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| Its crazy that Colrado has a larger state record muskie then Illinois. |
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Location: Duluth | This is good news. At least an excuse to bring my musky gear out west when I visit family |
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| ToddM - 11/14/2019 8:23 PM
Interesting I thought Colorado discontinued stocking them. I do wish they were managed as a sport fish as opposed to a control fish.
Not sure what this means, don't they have seasons/limits on 'control fish'? |
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Location: Duluth | here ya go, no season 36 Min 1 in possession and 1 daily
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Location: oswego, il | North of 8 - 11/15/2019 3:01 PM
ToddM - 11/14/2019 8:23 PM
Interesting I thought Colorado discontinued stocking them. I do wish they were managed as a sport fish as opposed to a control fish.
Not sure what this means, don't they have seasons/limits on 'control fish'?
They are not managed for sport fishing. Their sole existence and reason for stocking is to eat shad and suckers meaning stocking can cease or severely curtailed when a goal has been achieved. |
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| Catch and release em' while you can ! |
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| Thanks for posting this...I'm in Colorado and have been getting into fishing for the tigers here. Things were pretty thin from about 2008-2013 since they were struggling to source fish for stocking. They are definitely seen as primarily a management tool first and fishing opportunity second. Personally, I'd like to see the minimum size raised up to at least 45"...a number of folks stumble into them randomly with things like PowerBait out here and keep them or simply kill them because they think they're pike and wiping out all the trout.
I'm still really trying to figure things out with these fish...have had many lazy followers and the lakes they are in are typically smallish mountain trout reservoirs with extremely clear water. These lakes are generally overrun with suckers (up to 80% of fish population). They seem to prefer slightly smaller and more subdued baits and I'm still trying to figure out how they feel about topwater presentations.
There used to be a Muskies Inc chapter out here in the 90s, but after the initial surge of really heavy stocking tapered off I think fishing success and interest in the fish diminished. Utah, New Mexico, and Washington seem to have pretty active groups of tiger muskie anglers and pretty high catch rates...much more so than Colorado. That said, we do have a few places where you have a legitimate chance at finding a 50"+ tiger. |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | I wonder how putting Tigers into Lake Yellowstone could do to help that lake to get control of invasive lake trout ? Lake trout is threatening to wipe out the native cutthroat trout and thus damaging the local wildlife habitat.(cutthroat is a shallow water dweller and is a big part of other animal species food,,.. Lake trout stay in deeper water)
It's a really big problem there.
I've been to Yellowstone a dozen times in the last 3 yrs. and that lake would be a great fit for Tigers. The DNR has taken 80,000 lakers out so far and hasn't put a dent in their population.
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| I don't think tigers would be good for Yellowstone Lake if you reread the habits of lake trout vs cutthroats. Tigers do a lot of hunting in shallow (cutthroat) water not in the extreme depths lake trout often inhabit. Just my 2 cents, I live in Wyoming and would like more tiger fisheries, just not Yellowstone Lake. |
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| How does a species like Lake Trout end up in bodies of water they are not native to? Fisherman doing illegal stocking? Just wondering how that happens. |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | true tiger tamer - 11/25/2019 11:54 AM
I don't think tigers would be good for Yellowstone Lake if you reread the habits of lake trout vs cutthroats. Tigers do a lot of hunting in shallow (cutthroat) water not in the extreme depths lake trout often inhabit. Just my 2 cents, I live in Wyoming and would like more tiger fisheries, just not Yellowstone Lake.
Sounds about right... Cutthroat don't need another predator hunting them... Still, a huge problem with the lake trout in there.
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Location: Northern Illinois | North of 8 - 11/25/2019 12:36 PM
How does a species like Lake Trout end up in bodies of water they are not native to? Fisherman doing illegal stocking? Just wondering how that happens.
Lake trout were introduced illegally into Yellowstone Lake in the late 80's from a nearby lake, most likely Jackson Lake. |
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Location: Duluth | true tiger tamer - 11/25/2019 11:54 AM
I don't think tigers would be good for Yellowstone Lake if you reread the habits of lake trout vs cutthroats. Tigers do a lot of hunting in shallow (cutthroat) water not in the extreme depths lake trout often inhabit. Just my 2 cents, I live in Wyoming and would like more tiger fisheries, just not Yellowstone Lake.
Looks like they need to stock Sympatric strain to gobble up those deep water trout  |
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| It is claimed that the lake trout were illegally introduced, but I've also heard they migrated from another waterbody into Yellowstone Lake, along with the infamous "whoops pulled the wrong lever" during an airplane or helicopter stocking with lakers that were intended for a different waterbody. For those who are skeptical ask Wyoming Game and Fish how Mistake Lake got its name. As for a sympatric strain, I don't know of a species that is big enough that haunts deepwater that could prey with much efficiency on lake trout. |
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| I'm a Muskie fishermen from here in Colorado, my dad was a lifelong Muskie fishermen from Wisconsin and my mom born raised in the Deer River area of northern Minnesota.
Tigers were first stocked in 1983 , the late Jim Smith was responsible for getting them stocked. (Jim was the founder and first president of the local Colorado chapter of Muskies Inc and also president of the international around 1998/1999)
A lot of the old members have passed on or gotten too old to fish Muskie and in fighting the chapter is long gone and the Division of wildlife stop stocking the Tigers for quite awhile due to VHS concerns (getting eggs and such from other states).
There was a time in the late 80's early 90's were stocked as a sportfish. Of course this is no longer the case.
Even when they (DOW) stocked more heavily they wasted a lot of fish stocking a lot of lakes on the eastern plains where the water got way too warm or in lakes in metro Denver where they just fed the Walleye and Wipers.
The best place was Quincy Res. and I don't they even stock that any more.
and some of the best places are shore fishing or out of canoe or blow up boat. yes they stock in limited places.
Just my 2 cents
Chuck
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| Very interesting. I am CO local too and avid musky fisherman... elsewhere though. Agree with points that it is wasteful to stock them as a control fish only. For example, I fish Antero all the time for trout and have done so for many years. I never heard a single mention of tigers there despite a constant plague of suckers. Until this article.
But it sounds like the experiment is now underway with no stated intention of building it up into an actual fishery. I expect it would be an incredible musky lake forage and habitat-wise if they can handle the elevation. Would be really nice to see focus on a few key lakes, consistent stocking, C&R practices and with management goal of maintaining fishable populations. |
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin | MORE:
https://www.thefishingwire.com/releases/ddf2348b-126f-4497-a278-b9ed... |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | That's cool. I may have to take a travel combo with me on my next Motorcycle trip out there. |
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Location: Athens, Ohio | Here's a link that may help, to a 'fishing atlas'. Looks interactive
https://ndismaps.nrel.colostate.edu/index.html?app=FishingAtlas
and, God Bless Jim Smith! m |
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