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Message Subject: PSA - charging batteries overnight at resorts
Thuawk
Posted 7/25/2018 1:42 PM (#913339 - in reply to #913028)
Subject: Re: PSA - charging batteries overnight at resorts




Posts: 133


Call bs all ya want man.... Doesn't bother me. I fish minaki and my batteries stay pretty much charged. Maybe I have super batteries!!??? Go for a 6 mile run and they top back up!!! I've been in back lakes for 5 days without any source of power. I have witnesses if you need.... I will subpoena them for you!!!
Pointerpride102
Posted 7/25/2018 1:44 PM (#913340 - in reply to #913334)
Subject: Re: PSA - charging batteries overnight at resorts





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Location: The desert
14ledo81 - 7/25/2018 1:10 PM

Pointerpride102 - 7/25/2018 12:50 PM

Propster - 7/25/2018 12:45 PM

Thuawk - 7/25/2018 9:41 AM

If you have good batteries you only need the on board charger... Atleast I do.... I went a month without charging!!!


I call bs - you're not working them very hard. Let's have you go a full day on LOTW without charging.


Yeah, or even a water 1/8th the size....I can see a good weather streak where winds are light and you're not having to work the TM much but even then at most a couple days without a charge. I think I did two days on Wabigoon when we got calm conditions. A month is laughable.


I went 4 months without charging recently....


How much time did you use your trolling motor during that time frame?
Thuawk
Posted 7/25/2018 1:46 PM (#913341 - in reply to #913028)
Subject: Re: PSA - charging batteries overnight at resorts




Posts: 133


So what happens after the 2nd day?? The charger stops working??? If you run your engine??? Hahaha
14ledo81
Posted 7/25/2018 1:47 PM (#913342 - in reply to #913340)
Subject: Re: PSA - charging batteries overnight at resorts





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Location: Ashland WI
Pointerpride102 - 7/25/2018 1:44 PM

14ledo81 - 7/25/2018 1:10 PM

Pointerpride102 - 7/25/2018 12:50 PM

Propster - 7/25/2018 12:45 PM

Thuawk - 7/25/2018 9:41 AM

If you have good batteries you only need the on board charger... Atleast I do.... I went a month without charging!!!


I call bs - you're not working them very hard. Let's have you go a full day on LOTW without charging.


Yeah, or even a water 1/8th the size....I can see a good weather streak where winds are light and you're not having to work the TM much but even then at most a couple days without a charge. I think I did two days on Wabigoon when we got calm conditions. A month is laughable.


I went 4 months without charging recently....


How much time did you use your trolling motor during that time frame?


Details.... details.....

It might have been from January to March....
Thuawk
Posted 7/25/2018 1:49 PM (#913343 - in reply to #913028)
Subject: Re: PSA - charging batteries overnight at resorts




Posts: 133


Remember that if one battery is down the unit will not switch power to the trolling motor batteries. It will keep trying to charge that one
Pointerpride102
Posted 7/25/2018 2:11 PM (#913347 - in reply to #913343)
Subject: Re: PSA - charging batteries overnight at resorts





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Location: The desert
Thuawk - 7/25/2018 1:49 PM

Remember that if one battery is down the unit will not switch power to the trolling motor batteries. It will keep trying to charge that one


I see you have the minn kota DC charger, that would make a bit more sense. They must work pretty good then.
Thuawk
Posted 7/25/2018 2:30 PM (#913351 - in reply to #913028)
Subject: Re: PSA - charging batteries overnight at resorts




Posts: 133


I have a 2008 mercury optimax 200 on a bass boat, if my batteries go down to half if I go screaming across the lake on a 10 mile run at 65 mph ... When I stop the batteries will be full.... Could be a good alternator I'm not sure.
Thuawk
Posted 7/25/2018 2:34 PM (#913352 - in reply to #913028)
Subject: Re: PSA - charging batteries overnight at resorts




Posts: 133


And regardless my point I'm trying to make its that it's a very valuable tool to have on the boat for how much they cost.... Cheers
Propster
Posted 7/25/2018 3:28 PM (#913358 - in reply to #913352)
Subject: Re: PSA - charging batteries overnight at resorts




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Location: MN
Thuawk - 7/25/2018 2:34 PM

And regardless my point I'm trying to make its that it's a very valuable tool to have on the boat for how much they cost.... Cheers


I didn't see previously that you had a DC charger. Now your statement makes sense. I thought you were saying you went on battery power alone. I love my Stealth charger, it works awesome. But we still top them off at night for full charge whenever possible.
Thuawk
Posted 7/25/2018 3:30 PM (#913360 - in reply to #913028)
Subject: Re: PSA - charging batteries overnight at resorts




Posts: 133


Right on!
ulbian
Posted 7/25/2018 3:48 PM (#913362 - in reply to #913360)
Subject: Re: PSA - charging batteries overnight at resorts




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I’ve had that MK DC alternator for a few years now. It wouldn’t be necessary for me to have but it’s a nice addition. A couple of years ago when I was using my boat more I had my on board charger plugged in twice. Once when I got it out of storage and topped the batteries off and the other time was when I put it back into storage. The rest of the year the alternator kept them charged. There’s an obvious benefit to having this sort of thing if you go on a trip where you don’t have shore power but an additional benefit is that there is a charge going back into your batteries any time the outboard is run. They are never drawn down so the batteries will stay healthier longer.
Propster
Posted 7/25/2018 5:52 PM (#913378 - in reply to #913028)
Subject: Re: PSA - charging batteries overnight at resorts




Posts: 1901


Location: MN
That is a definite advantage, longer healthier battery life
danmuskyman
Posted 7/25/2018 6:37 PM (#913382 - in reply to #913338)
Subject: Re: PSA - charging batteries overnight at resorts




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Location: Madison, WI
Softwater - 7/25/2018 1:37 PM

Propster - 7/25/2018 12:47 PM

Fishysam - 7/25/2018 10:39 AM

Repost----/ Rip the third prong off the male end of your extension cord


What does this do for you?


I'm thinking you're suggesting removing the ground prong (which would defeat the ground fault feature of the receptacle), and let you charge without tripping the receptacle as somewhere there is a short in the wiring??? You'd get to charge, but wouldn't be protected as intended.


Actually if you are plugged in to a gfci recepticle, (ground fault circuit interrupted) the third prong (ground) has nothing to do with how the device works. A gfci monitors the current coming in and out between the hot and neutral wires. In a correct circuit this should read somewhere around 120 volts both in and out. If the gfci detects an imbalance, usually around 5 miliamps it will trip. The ground prong does nothing but serve as an equipment ground for whatever device your plugging in. This is why gfci’s are an acceptable method to replace old non grounded outlets without replacing the wiring. It will still offer protection just not give an equipment ground.
Softwater
Posted 7/26/2018 2:45 PM (#913471 - in reply to #913382)
Subject: Re: PSA - charging batteries overnight at resorts




Posts: 73


Location: Cedarburg, WI
danmuskyman - 7/25/2018 6:37 PM

Softwater - 7/25/2018 1:37 PM

Propster - 7/25/2018 12:47 PM

Fishysam - 7/25/2018 10:39 AM

Repost----/ Rip the third prong off the male end of your extension cord


What does this do for you?


I'm thinking you're suggesting removing the ground prong (which would defeat the ground fault feature of the receptacle), and let you charge without tripping the receptacle as somewhere there is a short in the wiring??? You'd get to charge, but wouldn't be protected as intended.


Actually if you are plugged in to a gfci recepticle, (ground fault circuit interrupted) the third prong (ground) has nothing to do with how the device works. A gfci monitors the current coming in and out between the hot and neutral wires. In a correct circuit this should read somewhere around 120 volts both in and out. If the gfci detects an imbalance, usually around 5 miliamps it will trip. The ground prong does nothing but serve as an equipment ground for whatever device your plugging in. This is why gfci’s are an acceptable method to replace old non grounded outlets without replacing the wiring. It will still offer protection just not give an equipment ground.


You are absolutely correct about the ground. GFCI's will work without a ground wire. However, I think you misspoke about what it's checking for. It's not the voltage between the hot & neutral it's checking for, but actually differences in current between them. The current should be the same as it's a loop (from the GFCI out to the device & back to the GFCI). Any difference greater than 5mA (as you mentioned), and it assumes there is another 'non-authorized" path that the electricity is flowing to, at which point the internal switch opens and kills the hot leg.
danmuskyman
Posted 7/26/2018 3:00 PM (#913472 - in reply to #913471)
Subject: Re: PSA - charging batteries overnight at resorts




Posts: 633


Location: Madison, WI
That is exactly what I meant to say. It’s just monitoring the loop of current and looking for a difference of 5ma or greater. You must be an electrician too
Jerry Newman
Posted 7/29/2018 12:18 PM (#913688 - in reply to #913362)
Subject: Re: PSA - charging batteries overnight at resorts




Location: 31

ulbian - 7/25/2018 3:48 PM I’ve had that MK DC alternator for a few years now. It wouldn’t be necessary for me to have but it’s a nice addition. A couple of years ago when I was using my boat more I had my on board charger plugged in twice. Once when I got it out of storage and topped the batteries off and the other time was when I put it back into storage. The rest of the year the alternator kept them charged. There’s an obvious benefit to having this sort of thing if you go on a trip where you don’t have shore power but an additional benefit is that there is a charge going back into your batteries any time the outboard is run. They are never drawn down so the batteries will stay healthier longer.

 x2... 100%.

Been using the same type of DC charger but with the Stealth 1 system for a long time and same results.  Would never own a boat without one now.

jackpotjohnny48
Posted 8/6/2018 12:47 AM (#914609 - in reply to #913147)
Subject: Re: PSA - charging batteries overnight at resorts




Posts: 257


Location: Madison, WI
T3clay - 7/23/2018 10:32 PM

I had a guy unplug my cord at my boat and use my cord to plug in his boat one time.... I was not a happy man....



This reminds me of something I saw recently on facebook, regarding a laundry room in an apartment complex. This is the way I think we should all deal with selfish narcissists who think it's all about ME ME ME.


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