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| SOLUTION courtesy of DNR Police
§ 4-506.1. Intentional disruption of lawful fishing activity prohibited
(a) Intentional interference. -- While on private or public land, or Maryland waters, a person may not for the purpose of disrupting a lawful fishing activity:
(1) Interfere intentionally with the lawful taking of fish or other marine life by another person;
(2) Intentionally harass, drive, or disturb any fish for the purpose of disrupting a lawful fishing activity;
(3) Intentionally block, impede, harass, or disturb a person engaged in a lawful fishing activity;
(4) Intentionally deny passage by creating or erecting barriers on public property or on private property without the landowner's prior permission to areas where a lawful fishing activity is permitted; or
(5) Intentionally hinder a lawful fishing activity by placing obstacles or objects in waters of the State.
(b) Incidental interference. -- The conduct declared unlawful in this section does not include any incidental interference arising from lawful activity by private land users or users of land managed by the Department, including farmers, miners, or persons engaged in recreation.
(c) Enforcement. -- A Natural Resources police officer or other police officer of the State who has probable cause to believe that a person has violated this section may:
(1) Order the person to desist or to leave the area; or
(2) Arrest the person who refuses to desist or to leave the area. |
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Location: Mt. Zion, IL | I agree with the above comments saying take pictures. He will most likely be confrontational when you take his picture. Save your breath explaining the law to someone who is trying to intimidate you out of "his spot". It can be hard to stay calm, but I have had the best luck with keeping my head down and keeping the course. Here in IL, you are required to keep 75 ft of distance between an anchored boat. Drop anchor and take a picture. DNR/Conservation police may help, but they often cannot be there in time. Write down the boat license numbers and make sure he knows what you are doing. |
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Location: NE Ohio | thescottith - 6/6/2017 9:43 AM
Take your pants off every time you see him.
the best option EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Bullies will bully until put in check. You have as much right as he does. Time to protect yourself and stand your ground. But if that's not your style or something your comfortable doing then just fish the spot before he does, early bird gets the fish. |
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| Definitely not worth dying or going to jail over. Plenty of good advice here, and some not so good... Only thing I can add is to bring a sixer with next time and try to offer a beer to try and smooth things over. Keep the camera rolling JIC and just get the hell out of there if you don't feel safe. Hopefully he'll just calm the hell down when/if he realizes you're a local just trying to do your thing. It's pretty lame that it comes to this - not sure why everyone can't just do the "how's the fishing", we lie to each other, and then go about our business. |
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | Confrontation is always something that can be touchy depending on the person....
I once had a guy who knew exactly where I was going to fish...I came out on multiple evenings, starting in an area that was clear of anyone, and start fishing. This guy would come right in after I started, fish the point I was working toward, then leave just before my casts would be in the spot.
After multiple times doing this, I finally called to him as I was getting closer and asked him if his pattern is something he wanted to continue doing..I'd be happy to join him in his actions as his little 9.9 moving from spot to spot, I could overtake him with to my rig and I could do the same thing to him all evening if he'd like...
He stated he only had a few spots to fish, so I said go fish another one if someone is on a spot you normally fish... It is simple etiquette.... He proceded to ask if I had land on the lake system, which I stated that has no bearing on this situation...it is simple etiquette and sportsmanlike...and would appreciate him not continuing to do as he had been.
He has left me alone since....
I've had others who swear at me for calling them out as well....but those usually involve some sort of adult beverage being consumed by the offender...that involves a whole different way of dealing with them... and...can be more volatile due to said beverage consumption... more caution here...
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Location: oswego, il | I have seen that before, he is watching his spot. He probobly catches fish or has raised a big one there. I fish a lake in wisconsin, for the sake of argument, lets call it lake x. A musky fisherman on the lake sees me musky fishing comes out and quickly hits this one spot before i get to it. Doesnt cut me off but sees me working towards it. Fishes 5min and goes back and gine before i am 100 yards from him. Smart strategy helps his odds of getting the fish he raised there.
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Location: Northern Illinois | I'v had a couple people do that on the Fox Chain down here in illinois.... To many crazies. Even worse are the power boaters running there 35' powerboats 40 feet from shore and complaining that your in the way and then keep buzzing you with giant wakes.. I've lost a couple double 8's casting into or on there boats. |
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Location: oswego, il | The one that gets me the most is the about face. Your working one direction, a boat coming to you from the other. Conventional wisdom, one person goes around thenother, exchange a hello and on your way. Some people turn their boat around and are now right in front of you. I drive around them immediatley. |
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Location: The desert | This would solve your problem, rapidly.
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| Load up on some Behemoth, Amon Amarth, Anaal Nathrakh, Acacia Strain, White Chapel, etc and crank it up when he comes over. Also a great wakeboard bros deterrent. |
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| I want a GAU-8 for my boat to deal with these asshats. Think it'll fit? 
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | ToddM - 6/7/2017 1:26 PM
I have seen that before, he is watching his spot. He probobly catches fish or has raised a big one there. I fish a lake in wisconsin, for the sake of argument, lets call it lake x. A musky fisherman on the lake sees me musky fishing comes out and quickly hits this one spot before i get to it. Doesnt cut me off but sees me working towards it. Fishes 5min and goes back and gine before i am 100 yards from him. Smart strategy helps his odds of getting the fish he raised there.
The funny part about the one I was dealing with is he never caught a fish in front of me, but I had caught a couple just after he left, but just before getting to "his" point. Nice touch of karma here and there when it happened...
Steve
Edited by VMS 6/7/2017 9:47 PM
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| Send out the lake name and post an image of the map with the "spot" highlighted here. Guy will be flooded with new musky hunters beating up his spot. Sharing is caring. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Pointerpride102 - 6/7/2017 5:02 PM
This would solve your problem, rapidly.
I tried a .50 and a twin, both shook the sh*t out of the seat base they were mounted on. Went with a simple flame unit, easier to mount and operate.
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| Back in the early 1970s, I got to test a prototype the Army was considering for non-lethal crowd control. It was a converted WWII flame thrower converted to spray CS (tear gas). By pressurizing the tank with the built in hand pump, it could spray a stream of CS out to about 40 yards, more if you had a breeze behind you. (never spray into the wind) Five gallons could be sprayed out in just over a minute. Never went into use because while it didn't kill you, the liquid CS left chemical burns and could blind you. However, it might be just the ticket in this instance. Spray slightly ahead of the boat and let him drift through the cloud. He will not do it twice. |
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Location: St. Lawrence River | curdmudgeon - 6/6/2017 4:05 PM
SOLUTION courtesy of DNR Police
§ 4-506.1. Intentional disruption of lawful fishing activity prohibited
(a) Intentional interference. -- While on private or public land, or Maryland waters, a person may not for the purpose of disrupting a lawful fishing activity:
(1) Interfere intentionally with the lawful taking of fish or other marine life by another person;
(2) Intentionally harass, drive, or disturb any fish for the purpose of disrupting a lawful fishing activity;
(3) Intentionally block, impede, harass, or disturb a person engaged in a lawful fishing activity;
(4) Intentionally deny passage by creating or erecting barriers on public property or on private property without the landowner's prior permission to areas where a lawful fishing activity is permitted; or
(5) Intentionally hinder a lawful fishing activity by placing obstacles or objects in waters of the State.
(b) Incidental interference. -- The conduct declared unlawful in this section does not include any incidental interference arising from lawful activity by private land users or users of land managed by the Department, including farmers, miners, or persons engaged in recreation.
(c) Enforcement. -- A Natural Resources police officer or other police officer of the State who has probable cause to believe that a person has violated this section may:
(1) Order the person to desist or to leave the area; or
(2) Arrest the person who refuses to desist or to leave the area.
Listen, im not trying to stir the pot or anything but.... this is obviously a Not Givin a F##K type of guy. Calling the cops on him, you may just earn an enemy for life.. Just think it over before you snitch. I know I would. |
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Location: Aurora | ToddM - 6/7/2017 1:26 PM
I have seen that before, he is watching his spot. He probobly catches fish or has raised a big one there. I fish a lake in wisconsin, for the sake of argument, lets call it lake x. A musky fisherman on the lake sees me musky fishing comes out and quickly hits this one spot before i get to it. Doesnt cut me off but sees me working towards it. Fishes 5min and goes back and gine before i am 100 yards from him. Smart strategy helps his odds of getting the fish he raised there.
Reminiscent of the woman that comes outta nowhere whenever i'm about to play a slot at the casino. "I'M playin that one there!!" and then she budges in between me and the machine, sits down, and acts super natural and casual about the whole thing.
Here's a shot of her without curlers in her hair.
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Location: oswego, il | Sidejack, just try yelling bingo before she does! |
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| chasintails - 6/8/2017 9:57 AM
Send out the lake name and post an image of the map with the "spot" highlighted here. Guy will be flooded with new musky hunters beating up his spot. Sharing is caring.
I really like this idea... or have evryone ready and around the corner when he rolls up on you next time.... might not solve the problem but would be great payaback! |
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Location: Minnesota. | ToddM - 6/7/2017 2:09 PM
The one that gets me the most is the about face. Your working one direction, a boat coming to you from the other. Conventional wisdom, one person goes around thenother, exchange a hello and on your way. Some people turn their boat around and are now right in front of you. I drive around them immediatley.
I've had this happen too on a few spots up on the V, where some boys can get a bit pushy. Most are okay...
I'll go around as suggested and pass on the deeper side, casting out deep until we pass the other guy. The pretty amazing thing is something that took me completely unawares....there have been more than a few times when we've been "hit" out deeper like this!!! Nice surprise! |
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Location: oswego, il | Salmon guys do it too it is amazing the defensive and offensive moves made. |
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| Every time that happens to me I've told the other guy if you need a guide hop in I charge $400.00 a day. They get the message grumble, say a few words and leave........so far! |
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