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| nar160 - 4/11/2017 12:13 PM
Flambeauski - 4/11/2017 11:03 AM
I have a couple Hatteras Heavers combos that will chuck a bait close to if not over 100. FYI, you have almost 0 chance of landing a muskie that hits 100 yards out on a cast.
I don't really understand this. What is the difference between 100' out and 300' out? 100' is already far enough out that your hookset won't change the line angle and with superlines the extra stretch is pretty minimal. Is there something I'm missing? That much more likely the fish comes off en route to the boat?
It has more to do with the movement of the line through the water. There will always be a slight parabolic bow in your line from the rod to the reel. As you set the hook this bow is pulled through the water and has a resistance to it that is working against you.
Also braid has from 1-3% stretch depending on who's marketing your looking at. If it's 3% at 300' that's 9' of stretch vs 3' at 100'.
I used to use a line that was colored every 10' casting a weighted double 13 a good cast was 100'. I have hard lures I could get out further with my other rods, but highly doubt even on my best day that they were over 150', if that even. I could sling em pretty good too.
Surf rods can really get em out there in the over 300' range, but then your into pendulum casts. Not really comparable equipment to muskie stuff. |
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Location: Northern Illinois | I'm confused. 100' = 100 feet, not yards. I think we are talking apples and oranges. |
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| You're correct. 100'=100 feet. Anybody that thinks they're casting 100 yards with musky gear is drinking some pretty good kool aid. |
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Location: Not where I want to be! | Go to your local park, make a bomb cast and step it off. It won't be nearly as long as you think. 100 to 125 ft. for most lures is about average. |
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| 20' boat times 5 of them equals more than 100'. 5 boat lengths is a joke I will do 5 boat lengths into the wind. I do not believe braid like power pro has any where close to 1% stretch. Can a link be provided? Now drakon musky master, sure it stretches. And the "parabolic curve" only happens when realing slow or boat traveling in a direction other than towards the lure... I agree it would be hard to get a quality hook set with all line out of the reel. I normally only do it to get the line laid on the reel smooth. You would be surprised how loose you spoil it on. If you can troll it out or cast it out the lures weight will keep it round rather than octagonal. Don't believe me try it. And then after wards notice you get less backlashes. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | I'd agree the avg casts most of us are making is 120 feet... guys that think they are casting 100 yards, go down to the local football field and let us know how that works out for ya! |
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Location: 31 | RLSea - 4/11/2017 11:38 PM I'm confused. 100' = 100 feet, not yards. I think we are talking apples and oranges. More like apples and watermelons... LOL. Sam, do yourself a favor and measure a few casts before posting again.
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Location: Smith Creek | 100 yards is not a problem with the right gear (shown next to a sling blade for scale)
In muskie fishing no good can come from a 100 yard cast. Figure 8's are nice, though.
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Location: Contrarian Island | and why on earth would you want to cast 100 yards? sheesh... 2 little boys standing in the snow to see who can pee farther... !  |
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Location: 31 | Flambeauski - 4/12/2017 10:39 AM 100 yards is not a problem with the right gear (shown next to a sling blade for scale) In muskie fishing no good can come from a 100 yard cast. Figure 8's are nice, though. Curious how far you can actually cast (not guess) with that beast. |
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Location: Smith Creek | I built it for figure 8's, not long casts. With an Avet I can cast off a bit over 100 yards of line, with a luna that has all the spool breaks removed about 90 yards. That's yards of line, so with the belly I'm probably not casting that full distance. I know guys that could hit 200 with that rod blank, I cannot do that.
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Location: E. Tenn | Fishysam - 4/11/2017 10:29 PM
Yeah I'm not saying I can regularly cast all the 80# line of my nacl 60 with no backing. But I have and will again. How much fits on that real?
A Revo Toro Nacl 60 holds 250 yd. of 14# mono, which works out to 195-200 yds. of 80# PP with no backing, according to the various "line calculators" I've run those numbers through..
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| http://www.sportfishingmag.com/gallery/gear/2014/11/line-test#page-...
Some info on stretch and line strength. Power pro coming in with 3.7% stretch. |
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Location: MN | Interesting test. Worth noting though - that is stretch before breakage, and they used 30 lb. braid which broke at 49.4 lb. I highly doubt that 80 lb. braid with ~20 lb. of force applied stretches anywhere near that. |
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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't | Flambeauski - 4/12/2017 10:39 AM
100 yards is not a problem with the right gear (shown next to a sling blade for scale)
In muskie fishing no good can come from a 100 yard cast. Figure 8's are nice, though.
Is that your rod? If so what blank is it and what length is it? I thought about making a surf blank into a ski rod. |
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Location: Smith Creek | 3SRS120HMF2
12', 6-16 oz.
aka Hatteras Heaver or 8nbait rod. |
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