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monsterlures
Posted 3/6/2017 4:42 AM (#852303)
Subject: Power pro raiting




Posts: 259


I have noticed that the 0.46mm power pro line is rated for 100lb in the american market but it is rated 120lb in the european market.

Who do I belive and why does such a difference existe in the first place?
Musky_Mo16
Posted 3/6/2017 6:57 AM (#852305 - in reply to #852303)
Subject: Re: Power pro raiting




Posts: 735


Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't
I heard there was "fake" line going around.
horsehunter
Posted 3/6/2017 7:18 AM (#852306 - in reply to #852303)
Subject: Re: Power pro raiting




Location: Eastern Ontario
Most lines break well above their rated pound test. I actually saw one braid advertised to break at more than double it's rated strength it's diameter was also well above that of other 80lb braids. Only IGFA class lines are guaranteed to break within a narrow acceptable range of the rated breaking strength. They are expensive and used mostly in saltwater by those seeking line class records. I buy my line based on diameter and .018 to 021 works for me. Neither you or I are ever going to have to deal with an 80 pound muskie.
monsterlures
Posted 3/6/2017 7:19 AM (#852307 - in reply to #852303)
Subject: Re: Power pro raiting




Posts: 259


Cant be that, the usa raitings i got are from the powerpro usa site, the european numbers i got off a official shimano group catalogue released in europe.
horsehunter
Posted 3/6/2017 7:57 AM (#852314 - in reply to #852303)
Subject: Re: Power pro raiting




Location: Eastern Ontario
European lines diameter in mm and break strength which is meaningless in Kg
American in thousands of inch and pounds which is also meaningless
Buy based on a diameter that works for you

Initially everyone used dacron line at around a 36 or 40 pound rating but when the superlines came out with their much smaller diameters they would bury into themselves or snap on a backlash. People found that by going to 80lb with a diameter similar to the 36 pound dacron they were used to it performed much as they were accustomed to. Heavy pound tests are not needed to land a muskie its to perform on reels . Labeled break strength is meaningless.

In an ideal world 10 lb line would break at 10 lbs and 80 lb would break at 80 lbs
Will Schultz
Posted 3/6/2017 8:13 AM (#852317 - in reply to #852303)
Subject: Re: Power pro raiting





Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Horsehunter is correct. Most of the rest of the world wants their line rating as actual break strength (IGFA class). You'll notice that line companies that sell a lot more line in Europe, Australia, Japan, etc. will have diameter that is much smaller for the rated lb test, this is because they will break at or just above their rating. For some reason the US and NA, started finding it acceptable to rate "lb test" based on a range of diameter. Perhaps because there was such a variance in diameter that it "could" break at a much lower rating? For example 50# Big Game has a break strength of about 60#, not acceptable if you're fishing for records as it will land you in the 60# category.
monsterlures
Posted 3/6/2017 8:35 AM (#852320 - in reply to #852303)
Subject: Re: Power pro raiting




Posts: 259


Thanks fpr the info people!

So if I understand correcly, the euro values are closer to reality to account for the fact that most braids are tougher than what the usa sources claim?
Will Schultz
Posted 3/7/2017 1:32 PM (#852534 - in reply to #852320)
Subject: Re: Power pro raiting





Location: Grand Rapids, MI

monsterlures - 3/6/2017 9:35 AM Thanks fpr the info people! So if I understand correcly, the euro values are closer to reality to account for the fact that most braids are tougher than what the usa sources claim?

I think that's accurate. Here's a table that contains many different manufacturers that will give you an idea of stated vs. actual break strength.

http://www.paulusjustfishing.com/4linetesting.htm

 

JakeStCroixSkis
Posted 3/7/2017 6:37 PM (#852565 - in reply to #852305)
Subject: Re: Power pro raiting





Posts: 1425


Location: St. Lawrence River
Musky_Mo16 - 3/6/2017 7:57 AM

I heard there was "fake" line going around.


This has been going on for years now. If you see "powerpro" on eBay for a too good to be true price, probably is.
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