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Location: Shakopee Minnesota | what is the best all around leader size, type, strength for eveything from pounders and other rubbers to topwaters, glides, jerks, cranks and bucktails. thanks! |
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Location: Waukee, IA | Well to cover those baits you'll need a couple different kinds. The gliders and jerks I use seem to work better with a 10" single strand rigid wire leader with no swivel. The rest can be covered with fluorocarbon or flexible multi strand wire leader. |
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Location: Chisholm, MN | Stop in at thorne bros and buy their brand of leaders. Get a few of them. I generally get 180# flourocarbon. I think they are around 14 inches. I always have one rod rigged for gliders with a single strand wire leader as well. All from thorne bros. Good prices too. |
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | All around would be a single strand wire 140 - 174#. I would never use flouro on any rubber bait. |
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| Will Schultz - 2/9/2017 11:40 AM
All around would be a single strand wire 140 - 174#. I would never use flouro on any rubber bait.
can you elaborate ? |
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| muskies can bite through flouro. Rarely ever happens but it is possible. |
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Location: S.W. WI | Solid wire only for me. For everything I throw. It's fine for all lures.
I have found no reason to ever risk using something flexible that I have seen crack and break or come apart. |
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| danlaboucane - 2/9/2017 12:14 PM
Will Schultz - 2/9/2017 11:40 AM
All around would be a single strand wire 140 - 174#. I would never use flouro on any rubber bait.
can you elaborate ?
If you use a pull-pause retrieve it's pretty easy for them to eat the lure and wind up with the leader in their mouth too. Never had a bite-off, but why take the chance?
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If you use a pull-pause retrieve it's pretty easy for them to eat the lure and wind up with the leader in their mouth too. Never had a bite-off, but why take the chance?
good point ! |
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| Does a thick 120+lb fluro leader even have any advantages in terms of descretion?
Personaly, i have a 100m spool of 40kg 49strand wire that i use to build leaders when needed.
Would never use fluro simply because the risk of bite offs existe |
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Location: Tomahawk, WI | Ive been using 150# floro for all my lures except glide baits for the last 5 or 6 years. And yes, I use it for rubber too!! Not a single bite off. YET!!!! |
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | banditman - 2/10/2017 9:14 AM Ive been using 150# floro for all my lures except glide baits for the last 5 or 6 years. And yes, I use it for rubber too!! Not a single bite off. YET!!!! When there's nothing but the tail of a pounder hanging our of their mouth and they cut that flouro like it's 10lb then what? There's no upside to flouro when casting for muskies, it's all downside.
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| My fear of flouro comes from the coming day when I hook 'The One'. |
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Location: Illinois | Caught a 57 incher in October on a 9" suick curly sue (rubber bait) and was using a huskies Muskie leaders 150# fluorocarbon leader 12". So out of the 9" bait and 12" leader only about 2" of leader was sticking out of her mouth. A couple scrapes on the leader and that's it. Can they bite it off? Yes! However, when the fish are being extremely finicky, a fluoro leader (they blend in with the water, some say invisible, I say more like camo) might be the difference in fish or no fish.
If it increases my odds for success by 1% it's worth a shot! If I lose one from it...well, sh#t happens. |
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Location: St. Lawrence River | If fish are being finicky, I don't think by any means a 150lb fluoro leader is an improvement.. |
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| Personaly i would think that leaving a 57 inch muskie (or pike in my case) with a curly sue in its mouth is more a case of "holy #*#* i massively ****ed up" than a simple case case of "#*#* happens". Unless the hooks are barbeless, i dont really see how the fish would survive uless if its really lucky.... |
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Location: Waukee, IA | monsterlures - 2/11/2017 12:49 AM
Personaly i would think that leaving a 57 inch muskie (or pike in my case) with a curly sue in its mouth is more a case of "holy #*#* i massively ****ed up" than a simple case case of "#*#* happens". Unless the hooks are barbeless, i dont really see how the fish would survive uless if its really lucky....
Not only is your language trash, on top of that the risk is far lower than the melodrama you portray. But don't let facts get in your way
Citation: https://www.saltstrong.com/articles/fishing-lure-left-in-a-fishs-mou... |
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Location: Northern Wisconsin | I used flouro leaders for a bit until I had a bite off. Luckily the fish was in the net already and thrashing around when it cut the flour. Not a risk I take any more. Single strand works for everything and they are cheap and easy to make. |
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Location: Illinois | JakeStCroixSkis - 2/10/2017 8:56 PM
If fish are being finicky, I don't think by any means a 150lb fluoro leader is an improvement..
As far as visibility compared to wire...it is... |
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Location: Illinois | In the end it's going to boil down to personal preference. |
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| Was not expecting it to bother anyone considering the context that it is used in., appologies to those it did.
Nice article, would not have expected such an outcome from that experiment, Good to know that the results of a broken line wont be as negative as I have expected. Altough it would be interesting to know if the results would be similar when the bigger baits, hooks and barbs used in muskie fishing are involved
As for drama, i belive anything involving a 57 inch fish will involve a lot of drama :P |
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Location: Illinois | In the end it's going to boil down to personal preference. |
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Location: MN | I use them all solid for jerkbaits but moving to 49 strand 130 and 19 strand 150 for nonjerk and glidebaits |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | I have used floro for the past 8 years... Pounders, cranks, blades, jerk baits, topwaters, gliders.. never had a problem.. ever.
However, During a Tourney my partner hooked a nice fish and was dragging it towards the net....and then all of a sudden the leader just broke !
Right Jake ?
Anyway I still like the floro over steel because I've had more steel leaders break and need replaced after a fish trashed and bent the Hell out of it than with floro.
Plus floro is so much more stealth/invisible.
What is best ? What ever you prefer, I guess.
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| Stealth fluoro leaders in 180 pound. Never had an issue in many,many fish. Gets a good cut in it from teeth you replace it and off you go.
Straight wire for jerks. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | I make my own 180 lb fluoro leaders, used em forever. never had one break/get cut
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