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Location: Tinley Park, IL | I have a X-190 and need a 60 amp circuit breaker for my Xi5. Which circuit breaker(s) did you get? Thanks. |
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Location: Tinley Park, IL | mtcook16 - 10/10/2016 4:31 PM
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Do you have a Tuffy? Did you get 2 of them? Didn't really feel like spending $70 on circuit breakers. Thanks |
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Location: Minnesota | Not shur on the x5 .but the minkota requires a 80 amp breaker. I kept triping my breaker when i ran on high or in the weeds found out i had to small of breakers after putting 80 on no more issues picked mine up at cabellas. depending on witch size motor you bought you might need a biger one as well |
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Location: MN | Paul S - 10/10/2016 8:34 PM
mtcook16 - 10/10/2016 4:31 PM
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Do you have a Tuffy? Did you get 2 of them? Didn't really feel like spending $70 on circuit breakers. Thanks
I do not have a Tuffy, but it should not affect how to properly wire and protect a trolling motor. What has you thinking that you would need two? |
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Location: MN | muskyhunter47 - 10/11/2016 5:12 AM
Not shur on the x5 .but the minkota requires a 80 amp breaker. I kept triping my breaker when i ran on high or in the weeds found out i had to small of breakers after putting 80 on no more issues picked mine up at cabellas. depending on witch size motor you bought you might need a biger one as well
You run an 80lb thrust Minn Kota (24v)? A 60 amp breaker popping under normal use is not right. Minn Kota's 80# motors have a max amperage draw of 56 amps.
When you factor in heavy weeds building up on the lower unit/prop or prolonged run time at/above 85%, you will start to build resistance and heat that may pop the breaker, but that is what it is supposed to do so that it protects the motor. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | I have a Tuffy 1760 and forked over the $70 for two of the 60 amp Minn Kota breakers. Wasn't a fun purchase but the two 40 amp breakers that were in it were kicking off more and more frequently at sustained setting of 60% or more.
That hasn't completely stopped so the motor itself might have a shutoff feature that I need to look into, but that's a different topic. |
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Location: Tinley Park, IL | Thanks everyone for the responses.
I have a 60 amp, 80 lb Motorguide Xi5 and I have popped the breaker every time I have run the TM on high for an extended amount of time. Curley- if I have 40-amp breakers like you it would make even more sense. (I thought they were 50 amp but they are not labeled.) It looks like 8 gauge wire to me and Steve thinks that as well. Will that safely carry 60 amps? I know guys run 36 volts in Tuffys but at what amp? I don't know much about wiring so excuse my ignorance. Plus, this is my first 24 volt system.
@mtcook- our Tuffy's have 2 circuit breakers. We don't jump the voltage at the batteries so each battery has a circuit breaker. The plug makes the 24 volts.
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| Paul S - 10/11/2016 1:31 PM
Thanks everyone for the responses.
I have a 60 amp, 80 lb Motorguide Xi5 and I have popped the breaker every time I have run the TM on high for an extended amount of time. Curley- if I have 40-amp breakers like you it would make even more sense. (I thought they were 50 amp but they are not labeled.) It looks like 8 gauge wire to me and Steve thinks that as well. Will that safely carry 60 amps? I know guys run 36 volts in Tuffys but at what amp? I don't know much about wiring so excuse my ignorance. Plus, this is my first 24 volt system.
@mtcook- our Tuffy's have 2 circuit breakers. We don't jump the voltage at the batteries so each battery has a circuit breaker. The plug makes the 24 volts.
It depends on the temperature rating of the conductor. It may be if the temp rating is 105 deg C, but usually #6 is used for 60 amps. |
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Location: Minnesota | mtcook16 - 10/11/2016 8:51 AM
muskyhunter47 - 10/11/2016 5:12 AM
Not shur on the x5 .but the minkota requires a 80 amp breaker. I kept triping my breaker when i ran on high or in the weeds found out i had to small of breakers after putting 80 on no more issues picked mine up at cabellas. depending on witch size motor you bought you might need a biger one as well
You run an 80lb thrust Minn Kota (24v )? A 60 amp breaker popping under normal use is not right. Minn Kota's 80# motors have a max amperage draw of 56 amps.
When you factor in heavy weeds building up on the lower unit/prop or prolonged run time at/above 85%, you will start to build resistance and heat that may pop the breaker, but that is what it is supposed to do so that it protects the motor.
Yep your right i looked when i got home i had 40s i put 60s in |
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Location: With my son on the water | Tuffy boats are wired in Parallel and make the 24 volt connection at the back of the Marinco plug. There are two hot 12 volt circuits going to the back of the plug, that's why there are 2 breakers.
I personally was having lots of issues with this setup so I rewired it. My main problem was the Marinco Plugs are only rated for 40 amps and my Terrova draws 56. Most the time it was fine but during long periods of us the plug go hot and I lost connection.
I rewired my rig and wired it in Series, used a battery tender plug rated for 100 amps, installed a shutoff switch under the console at the jump of the + & so I can shut it off when not in use or particularly during charging which you should do so you don't fry your mother board if you get a voltage spike. A voltage spike can happen anytime your line voltage drops sharply and then comes back up. Like when an AC unit kicks in, well pump, freezer, or the wind.
You can't guess how large of wire to use, look it up on an (AMP/Run length chart). I ended up using 4 gage marine wire as that's what the chart said. Now I only have 1 60 amp breaker and have had zero problems.
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Location: Tinley Park, IL | Thanks bt- what you did was what I was considering. I have read in multiple places that 6 or 4 gauge wire should be used. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | Brad,
I remember you talking about rewiring your trolling motor now. I might need to look into that sometime. I never thought that the plug might be the problem. It is annoying, and sometimes a little dangerous to have the motor kick off under heavy use on windy days.
My previous boat, I used a jumper to make 24 volts at the battery and never once had a problem. I actually used a fuse with that setup. Think I had one fuse blow once but that was it. May need to think about rewiring mine too. It's a little unnerving when the trolling motor shuts off when just a cast length upwind of big rocks on LOTW with the wind pounding in on them. |
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Location: With my son on the water | Tucker
Ya, you know I spend a bunch of time on LOTW and I normally fish into the wind. It was so frustrating for the first year until I corrected this. I noticed it because my foot bumped the plug and when I wiggled it I noticed it was hot and would only make intermittent connection. I wasted a few bucks on plugs until I determined they were only rated for 40 amps. Then I made the switch.
FYI it will cost a few buck to do it correctly (Marine grade wire (again, I used 4 gage because that is what the (AMP/Run Length Chart told me) don't guess, Electrical Grade Soldier, Ring Terminals, Heat Shrink and Plastic Dip, Battery Tender Plug, Resettable 60 amp Breaker, Marine Shutoff Switch). I think it cost near $200 but it is bullet proof now. I have some extra Ring Terminals I can send you if you do it. They are the heavy ones that you can soldier the wire into which give much less voltage resistance than crimps.
Send me an E-mail when you have time, we need to catch up and I have a question for you regarding your Beast.
Brad
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Location: MN | Paul S - 10/11/2016 1:31 PM
Thanks everyone for the responses.
I have a 60 amp, 80 lb Motorguide Xi5 and I have popped the breaker every time I have run the TM on high for an extended amount of time. Curley- if I have 40-amp breakers like you it would make even more sense. (I thought they were 50 amp but they are not labeled.) It looks like 8 gauge wire to me and Steve thinks that as well. Will that safely carry 60 amps? I know guys run 36 volts in Tuffys but at what amp? I don't know much about wiring so excuse my ignorance. Plus, this is my first 24 volt system.
@mtcook- our Tuffy's have 2 circuit breakers. We don't jump the voltage at the batteries so each battery has a circuit breaker. The plug makes the 24 volts.
Ahh, understood. Never been under the lids of a Tuffy so I didn't know they came rigged like that. Always more than one way to get it done.
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