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krisrishonda
Posted 8/10/2015 9:35 AM (#779764)
Subject: Towing




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Wondering what the largest boat people tow with an s-10 or s-10 blazer 4.3 v6?
14ledo81
Posted 8/10/2015 9:48 AM (#779767 - in reply to #779764)
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Posts: 4269


Location: Ashland WI
I have a 1997 Jeep Cherokee (not an S-10, but still a 6 cylinder). I tow my Esox Ltd with it. It seems to squat a bit in the back, but I can't say there is a power issue.

I believe my Esox Ltd (with motor and some gear) probably weighs over 1000 lbs.
cave run legend
Posted 8/10/2015 10:18 AM (#779771 - in reply to #779767)
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On the drivers door jamb there is a max towing #. That is a good place to start.

Edited by cave run legend 8/10/2015 10:51 AM
anzomcik
Posted 8/10/2015 11:46 AM (#779782 - in reply to #779764)
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I had a chevy colordao with the 3.5L 5 cylinder, i towed a crestliner 2050 sportfish that was well under the 5K limit on the truck towing. It had surge brakes so stopping wasnt an issue. I did not hot foot it, i went nice and slow i could do highway speeds just took my time getting there. The weight was not the issue it was the amount of air i was catching with the boat towering over my small truck.
Muskers
Posted 8/10/2015 12:05 PM (#779784 - in reply to #779764)
Subject: Re: Towing




Posts: 325


Location: Otsego, MN
2010 Ford Explorer pulls my 2000 Ranger 619DVS (single axel). Does a great job and the surge breaks help for sure. Don't have an issue pulling or more importantly STOPPING. The only issue I have seen is in strong cross winds (30+mph) the trailer can sway a bit at speeds over 70.
As with any towing, be smart, be patient and be vigil watching the trailer behind you.
Pointerpride102
Posted 8/10/2015 5:50 PM (#779838 - in reply to #779764)
Subject: Re: Towing





Posts: 16632


Location: The desert
Tow my tuffy 1890 Osprey T with my 07 Grand Cherokee v6. Double axel trailer, surge brakes disconnected, no issues at all.

Like others have said, take your time. Don't drive like a FIB. I also don't use cruise. Get 14.7 mpg towing at 70 mph.
muskyhunter47
Posted 8/10/2015 6:24 PM (#779840 - in reply to #779771)
Subject: Re: Towing




Posts: 1638


Location: Minnesota
cave run legend - 8/10/2015 10:18 AM

On the drivers door jamb there is a max towing #. That is a good place to start.


What he said
upnortdave
Posted 8/10/2015 6:25 PM (#779841 - in reply to #779838)
Subject: Re: Towing




Posts: 670


Location: mercer wi
I have 07 trailblazer pullin an 02 tracker pro v 17. No surge brakes. Pulled boat great at highway speeds. Stuggled on steep hills inbetween eagle river n florance. Otherwise great tow vehicle.
muskyfishing89
Posted 8/11/2015 11:11 AM (#779930 - in reply to #779764)
Subject: Re: Towing




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So a Ford Explorer with a 4.0 V6 and a Toyota Rav 4 with 3.5 V6 can tow big boats?
anzomcik
Posted 8/11/2015 11:28 AM (#779933 - in reply to #779764)
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I guess that depends on what the divination of "big boat" is.
krisrishonda
Posted 8/11/2015 11:46 AM (#779934 - in reply to #779764)
Subject: Re: Towing




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Right now I pull a 16 foot aluminum boat and it pulls it really good. I know the vehicle is rated at 5700lbs the door jamb says it. I was wondering more if people tow 18' or 19' aluminum boats comfortably with them to see if I should look for a new boat or a new tow vehicle in the near future.
muskyhunter47
Posted 8/11/2015 11:54 AM (#779936 - in reply to #779933)
Subject: Re: Towing




Posts: 1638


Location: Minnesota
In 2011 I bought a new Chevrolet equinox pulled my Crestliner great. In 2012 bought a new skeeter with all my gear I was over the 3000 # rating for pulling. So I bought a 2012 Chevrolet avalanche . How much weight are you pulling and what's your trucks capacity are you towing short trips close to home might be ok but if your towing long trips it would be a pain if your engine or transmission went out. Better to be safe then sorry.
tyler k
Posted 8/11/2015 2:12 PM (#779958 - in reply to #779764)
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Posts: 409


Location: Almond, WI
With a 18' aluminum boat you should be way under 5700lbs tow rating. Comfortably, that's a slightly different issue. Some manufacturers list package weight--I know Lund does. Then figure gas, gear, etc. For example, they list a Pro-V 1875 at 2848 or 2948 depending on model, so figure extras and you're probably around 4000.

2015 Ford Explorers and Toyota Highlanders have a 5000lbs tow rating (with tow package). I have a 2007 Rav4 V6, which despite being basically the same 3.5L motor they put in the current Highlander only has a 3500lbs rating. I pull a 16.5' aluminum tiller great with it, still get 17-18mpg while towing. But I know I'm limited in how much bigger of a boat I can get without upgrading the vehicle.
TCESOX
Posted 8/11/2015 8:54 PM (#780016 - in reply to #779764)
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I've had two different pro v tillers and rounded up the estimated loaded weight to 4000 lbs. just to err on the heavy side. I've towed them with both, with a 98 Ford Ranger, with a 4L V6. It was just enough for those boats on long trips. More than enough for short jaunts. Now have an 1825 Pro Guide. Not sure what the weight on it is, but it seems much lighter. Also has a much better trailer. It's comfortable on long trips. If your talking about a boat very much bigger than these, I would go with a bigger truck for sure.
cave run legend
Posted 8/11/2015 9:55 PM (#780023 - in reply to #779958)
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tyler k - 8/11/2015 3:12 PM

With a 18' aluminum boat you should be way under 5700lbs tow rating. Comfortably, that's a slightly different issue. Some manufacturers list package weight--I know Lund does. Then figure gas, gear, etc. For example, they list a Pro-V 1875 at 2848 or 2948 depending on model, so figure extras and you're probably around 4000.

2015 Ford Explorers and Toyota Highlanders have a 5000lbs tow rating (with tow package). I have a 2007 Rav4 V6, which despite being basically the same 3.5L motor they put in the current Highlander only has a 3500lbs rating. I pull a 16.5' aluminum tiller great with it, still get 17-18mpg while towing. But I know I'm limited in how much bigger of a boat I can get without upgrading the vehicle.


What gear is your transmission in when your towing with the rav4?
Macintosh
Posted 8/12/2015 9:14 AM (#780057 - in reply to #779764)
Subject: Re: Towing




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I tow a relatively lightweight 19' glass bass boat with a 2.7 liter 4-cylinder tacoma with a standard transmission, towed a 17' lund before that. Hull weight on those boats is about 1200 for the lund and 1350 lb for my current boat (plus engine, trailer, 3 batteries, gas, etc). It's a dog going up hills, it's clearly underpowered but it gets there fine. I use low-4 to pull out of the water as the lower gears are easier on the clutch--I can yank it out of the mud at unimproved ramps reasonably well. V6 in a similarly sized truck will pull fine, it's stopping that becomes the issue. Not sure about your truck, my little truck is only a couple hundred pounds lighter than some half-ton trucks so they stop better than many people give them credit for. Some people say they like to stick to trailer weight half of the recommended tow rating. Thats very conservative.

Edited by Macintosh 8/12/2015 8:59 PM
51Muskie
Posted 8/23/2015 10:03 PM (#781689 - in reply to #780057)
Subject: Re: Towing




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I have a 2001 Chevy blazer with 140,000 miles on it and i tow a 17 1/2 foot tracker targa dv with no problems ,I'm the original owner and take great care of it. But my est. weight with 115 opti max and gear is about 3000 pounds. It has a 4.3 and is 4 wheel drive. I hope this helps.
ToddM
Posted 8/24/2015 6:22 AM (#781697 - in reply to #779764)
Subject: Re: Towing





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Location: oswego, il
I have an older Chevy suburban and tow a 1750 crestliner. It knows it is back there. The biggest thing is I do not have brakes on the trailer. I have horrible stop light karma. Running memorial parkway(rt 30) out to Webster I have skidded through more than a few intersections trying to stop. I just replaced my horribly warped rotors. A fe years ago I even had a left front brake fire going through Duluth coming back from vermillion. That's alot of downhill trying to do the speed limit and not trying to roll too fast and not hit a light. I stopped and black smoke poured out of the left front. Luckily it went out on its own. Next year to the dismay of anyone around me I only went 30-35 and I could smell my brakes when I was in superior.

Tow rating, yeah but that boat will push your vehicle, can your brakes handle the extra weight and have the stopping power?
North of 8
Posted 8/24/2015 7:49 AM (#781700 - in reply to #781697)
Subject: Re: Towing




With any vehicle, if you do a lot of towing, a major concern should always be your transmission. I had a 28 foot travel trailer for a while and it had electronic brakes and I towed with a 3/4 Chevy. In addition to the tow package I ordered when I bought the truck new, I also had dealer put on an after market transmission cooler, along with the one included in the package. I now have a Yukon XL and an 18' boat and I never move the boat without making sure the tranny is in "tow mode". Cuts mileage dramatically but gas is cheap compared to a rebuilt transmission.
AndrewR
Posted 8/24/2015 10:22 AM (#781721 - in reply to #779764)
Subject: Re: Towing





Posts: 300


Location: Minocqua, WI
I have a GMC Envoy which is V6 and 4.2 engine, so pretty comparable. It's towed everything but the titanic so far: 18ft Glastron speedboat, Lund Pro-V 1775, to now a Ranger 681vs which is my every day fishing boat and my two other smaller rigs...... Anything heavier and larger than these boats, braking would be more difficult and I wouldn't have a comfort level being on the road.

In 2+ years of having this be my tow vehicle, I've only needed the 4wd twice for launching; On very steep and loose gravel landings. It's a very good puller but no super duty. I've got a boat and trailer hooked up to it about 100 days/yr.

So my vehicle lasts and doesn't get trashed, I get my oil changes done sooner than later (keep it to 4k mile avg.), and always request my mechanic to look over the brakes, hoses, and transmission every 4-6 months too. So far so good. But keeping the boats local and not having to tow lots between states and long distance surely saves wear and tear.
cave run legend
Posted 8/24/2015 10:38 AM (#781725 - in reply to #781721)
Subject: Re: Towing





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Do you keep your tranny in 3rd gear andrew? I have a Trailblazer with the 4.2 as well. I wish I had a tow option to press like other vehicles.
krisrishonda
Posted 8/24/2015 11:54 AM (#781736 - in reply to #779764)
Subject: RE: Towing




Posts: 22


Well I just got a trailblazer with the 4.2 and it pulls the boat and 4 people really well. Now I just need a trans cooler and a larger boat eventually.
AndrewR
Posted 8/24/2015 1:09 PM (#781747 - in reply to #781725)
Subject: Re: Towing





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Location: Minocqua, WI
cave run legend - 8/24/2015 10:38 AM

Do you keep your tranny in 3rd gear andrew? I have a Trailblazer with the 4.2 as well. I wish I had a tow option to press like other vehicles.


Very rarely. I have it in 3rd gear when I back the boat in and pull out from the landings, or drive steady at 55mph on the 2 lane highways. Not much hilly terrain here in WI so the RPM's wont be jumping all over the place, but I should probably use 3rd more just to save myself in the long run.
cave run legend
Posted 8/24/2015 1:38 PM (#781750 - in reply to #781747)
Subject: Re: Towing





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I tend to leave mine in 3rd. Heard to many stories of people burning their trannies up. There is a tow package on our trucks, should be a button to push for towing IMO.
jonnysled
Posted 8/24/2015 2:32 PM (#781757 - in reply to #781750)
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Location: minocqua, wi.
^ it's a car, not a truck ... not trying to be a smarty pants but the trailblazers were station wagons.
AndrewR
Posted 8/24/2015 3:50 PM (#781769 - in reply to #781750)
Subject: Re: Towing





Posts: 300


Location: Minocqua, WI
cave run legend - 8/24/2015 1:38 PM

I tend to leave mine in 3rd. Heard to many stories of people burning their trannies up. There is a tow package on our trucks, should be a button to push for towing IMO.


I agree. Mine's an '06 however.

jonnysled - 8/24/2015 2:32 PM

^ it's a car, not a truck ... not trying to be a smarty pants but the trailblazers were station wagons.


Be quiet mister ford super duty. We call our cars "sport utility vehicles" for this exact reason for differentiating. Wagons or whatever.
ToddM
Posted 8/24/2015 4:18 PM (#781774 - in reply to #781757)
Subject: Re: Towing





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Location: oswego, il
jonnysled - 8/24/2015 2:32 PM

^ it's a car, not a truck ... not trying to be a smarty pants but the trailblazers were station wagons.


I think they come in two editions, soccer mom and baby on board.
jonnysled
Posted 8/24/2015 4:37 PM (#781775 - in reply to #781774)
Subject: Re: Towing





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Location: minocqua, wi.
ToddM - 8/24/2015 4:18 PM

jonnysled - 8/24/2015 2:32 PM

^ it's a car, not a truck ... not trying to be a smarty pants but the trailblazers were station wagons.


I think they come in two editions, soccer mom and baby on board.


ibidah
North of 8
Posted 8/25/2015 6:54 AM (#781808 - in reply to #779764)
Subject: RE: Towing




The Trail Blazer went through several editions, but I am pretty sure it was based on the small truck platform, like GMC's Canyon. Rear wheel drive, solid rear axle and full frame.
muskiehunter51
Posted 8/25/2015 7:34 AM (#781813 - in reply to #781808)
Subject: RE: Towing





Posts: 174


Location: Naperville, IL
North of 8 - 8/25/2015 6:54 AM

The Trail Blazer went through several editions, but I am pretty sure it was based on the small truck platform, like GMC's Canyon. Rear wheel drive, solid rear axle and full frame.


It technically is a truck, not a wagon, not a car. It is a light truck, using the gm truck code GMT360.
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