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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Read more about what the structure within the fish's eye tells scientists. There's more, too, these three little cell structures.....
And then look at what color is actually there to see most of the time.
Contrast. Way back when, Jason Lucas had it right. So did Mark Sosin. When I told him I bought his book, he responded, 'Oh, so your are the guy who bought one'. That guy thinks allot.
Also, there's lots of assumption that one variable (like color) is the key on any one day, when it may be something else entirely. Run a hydrophone for a while, and record the 'hot' crankbait and the 'not hot' crankbait. It's interesting.
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| sworrall - 6/27/2015 9:36 PM
Read more about what the structure within the fish's eye tells scientists. There's more, too, these three little cell structures.....
And then look at what color is actually there to see most of the time.
Contrast.
Also, there's lots of assumption that one variable (like color) is the key on any one day, when it may be something else entirely. Run a hydrophone for a while, and record the 'hot' crankbait and the 'not hot' crankbait. It's interesting.
I agree with this. Lots of factors. Ever seen Kakagi on the satellite? Check the water color. It can look downright teal from the air, but when you're there it appears gin clear. Something weird going on there. Not sure why, but the white just doesn't work on sunny days...but clouds come in...hold on. I don't get it. But it's what we experienced from 2003-2009.
Believe me, I wish I had all the answers, but i don't and don't pretend to. What I CAN do is keep accurate records...and try to react when I'm on the water given past experience. Whatever the reasons they eat...keeping records is probably the best thing ANYONE can do. Second would be to experiment with color on any given day.
You fish with Herbeck too, so you know what he does. He's always mixing up colors and tossing whats working on Eagle that day up to clients in the front of his boat...
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| sworrall - 6/27/2015 9:36 PM
Also, there's lots of assumption that one variable (like color) is the key on any one day, when it may be something else entirely. Run a hydrophone for a while, and record the 'hot' crankbait and the 'not hot' crankbait. It's interesting.
On this specific point Steve, have you ever correlated what type of sounds work better on certain days? Also, as it relates to Dbl 10s (I toss Spankys most of the time), have you ever correlated more sound with the ones that "pull" harder, or the ones that seem to "feel" like they are "ticking" when they come in? I've been trying to put this together in my mind, and when i think I got it figured out...one musky does something stupid and throws a wrench on my conclusion.  I spent a lot of time in the basement studying the baits that works better than others (measuring cup of the blade, inspecting clevises, distance between hook tie and clevis, etc). Good thing I don't have a wife...LOL!
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| I heard Steve give a talk on color at a Muskies, Inc meeting years ago.
I went out after and bought cans of black and white spray paint and re-painted everything I owed...well almost.
I you ever get a change to hear this talk - do so.
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Location: Eastern Ontario | As I said before I'm not a lure changer I take a lure with history and go. Admittedly I fish a very limited number of waterbodies in a joined system, and the Larry for which I carry a different set of lures.
What would be interesting would be if someone could tabulate all the fish caught in a large tournament on one lake as to Lure, Colour, Time, Sky Condition, Wave height, and anything else you can think of. My feeling is you would get a real alphabet soup. |
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| waterbody,dictates color after the action factor of the lure.thru the year just a simple scale color on baits can dictate getting bit or not.ls,clair is a test tube for coloration other then tanic water. theres more color changes thru season then imaginable.. if you can read water color you will catch fish. ask any guide,or diehard on st clair. |
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Location: US | I remember reading an article in musky hunter quite a while back about black lures being so effective due to their preference of feeding on young bullheads. |
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Location: Mauston, Wisconsin | Steve has pretty much covered this topic - black seem's to always work, but there are times other colors work too. There is one color no one really throws, except for maybe me, and it always gets looks or bitten, its my go to search bait. HOT Fluorescent Pink, its visible throughout the water column and because of that its visible at significant distances in trout water lakes and even stain waters like Cedar Lake.
Describing colors verbally is confusing, especially if you're new to this sport. Here's what hot pink fluoroescent looks like. If you're a diver, this color is clearly visible to the human eye in 80ft of water. Normally I just watch the lure, if it disappears, I set the hooks....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescence
Have fun!
Al
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| I throw pink too, sees a lot of action, and people make fun of me. I drove from Chicago to the Musky Expo Milwaukee solely to get this Phantom Hardhead:
https://www.facebook.com/168631869880006/photos/pb.168631869880006.-...
I promptly replaced the gold/walleye tail with the Kalin's pink w/ silver glitter (which they now have stopped producing). I bought the last two Kalin's 2-packs I could find...
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Location: Ludington, MI | Wet colors work better than dry ones. 10 out of 10 dentists agree. |
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