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sworrall
Posted 5/7/2003 8:58 AM (#69301)
Subject: Leader Snaps





Posts: 32924


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin

What pound test and style snap do you use? Are you using a snap that rates in the 100# or more catagory? If so, why, durability? If the line is 50#, it seems like overkill to use a huge snap, especially since there is little chance the snap will ever be put to the maximum.

I use cross lock and duo lock models, and use the mediums most of the time.

Muskmelon
Posted 5/7/2003 9:41 AM (#69305 - in reply to #69301)
Subject: RE: Leader Snaps




Posts: 58


Location: Edina, MN
The snap seems to be the weakest link in my rigs. I am a chronic bait changer and opening and closing the snaps weakens them. Need to remember to change tham out when I can see metal flashing through on a black snap. I generally use a #4 snap and have had the best luck with the double locking style snaps that I get at Thornes. I have a tendency to break or straighten standard snaps on hook sets. I would say that lighter is typically better for putting action on the baits. For me the key has been replacing the snaps more frequently.
ESOX Maniac
Posted 5/7/2003 9:44 AM (#69306 - in reply to #69301)
Subject: RE: Leader Snaps





Posts: 2754


Location: Mauston, Wisconsin

I use 80lb dual lock snaps & 80lb swivels w/ 65lb Power Pro. Doesn't seem to make any sense to go higher. I have some smaller 50 & 60lb ones specifically for lighter lures, i.e. 4" & smaller. It'll be interesting if someone has some positive feedback as to why you need larger.

Al Warner

http://www.zaltnad.com

RAZE1
Posted 5/7/2003 10:06 AM (#69309 - in reply to #69306)
Subject: RE: Leader Snaps





Posts: 938


Location: NeverNever Lake
I have been using Stringease Stay-Loc http://www.stringease.com/snaps.html

I got a small leader from Crash at the outing and it had a very small Coast Lock snap with a heavy wire construction that turns out to be my new favorite. As far as snaps go, I would put them up against anything in my box.

Also hard to beat a split ring.
MuskyMike13
Posted 5/7/2003 11:49 AM (#69320 - in reply to #69301)
Subject: RE: Leader Snaps




Posts: 139


Use a Stringease # 5 or 6 snap for casting, rates some where in the 200-300lb range...Trolling use a # 8 Aussie Snap rated for about 500-600Lbs...Reason for heavy snaps, eliminate the weak links..Overkill, probably, but never have to worry...LOL
Ranger
Posted 5/7/2003 1:45 PM (#69350 - in reply to #69320)
Subject: RE: Leader Snaps





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My first choice is the small Stringease snap I buy from Rollie's, I think it is rated like 200#. They ae no bigger than 100# Berkley cross lock snaps, which are my second choice. I'm now using Spro Power Swivels rated at 130#; they are very small and streamlined units and I wonder if they really go 130#. This season I'm tying up 80# Climax Floro, 90# sevenstrand and 90# single strand wire for various applications.

First year I'm only using my own leaders, we'll see how it goes. Many thanks to DaveJ, Shep and E-Mike who all helped me along my way (though they may not know it).
0723
Posted 5/7/2003 4:13 PM (#69370 - in reply to #69301)
Subject: RE: Leader Snaps




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First and last time I used stringease,snap opened up about five minutes after using it,and yes it was in a tournament.Bad time to try one out.0723
Ranger
Posted 5/7/2003 4:17 PM (#69372 - in reply to #69370)
Subject: RE: Leader Snaps





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0732 - admit it, you work for Berkley!

Just kidding. Wow, the stringy opened up over and over, huh? I'm suprised.
mskyfin69
Posted 5/7/2003 5:39 PM (#69376 - in reply to #69301)
Subject: RE: Leader Snaps




Posts: 167


Location: IL
DukeSnaps,best snap I've seen.
0723
Posted 5/7/2003 6:27 PM (#69382 - in reply to #69301)
Subject: RE: Leader Snaps




Posts: 5193


Do not know how it happened but it did.I thought the same as most here impossible to open. I honestly do like the old berkley snaps but bucher or wolverine spilt rings are the only way to go to avoid snap failure.0723
Schuler
Posted 5/7/2003 8:05 PM (#69386 - in reply to #69301)
Subject: RE: Leader Snaps





Posts: 1462


Location: Davenport, IA
I like 200 lb stringease snaps the most. They are strong and easy to change.
Plitz.....
Posted 5/7/2003 9:08 PM (#69390 - in reply to #69301)
Subject: RE: Leader Snaps





Posts: 600


Location: West Bend, WI
I had a bait work it's self off a split ring the other day, so now I don't know what I'm going to do.First time though!!
ToddM
Posted 5/7/2003 9:23 PM (#69392 - in reply to #69301)
Subject: RE: Leader Snaps





Posts: 20248


Location: oswego, il
I go with a 150lb coastlock snap that I get from stamina. I like the rounded one. They seem to hold up quite well. So do the strigease.
Jim K
Posted 5/7/2003 9:31 PM (#69394 - in reply to #69392)
Subject: RE: Leader Snaps




Posts: 736


Location: Hartford, WI
I will quote Plitzzz on this one "what the F____". I couldnt believe it.

Jim
Musky Fever
Posted 5/7/2003 9:46 PM (#69398 - in reply to #69301)
Subject: RE: Leader Snaps





Location: Illinois-Indiana
This year I made a bunch of leaders up with two split rings, no snaps and no swivels to give out. On my bucktail and prop bait leaders I used a swivel on one end.
sworrall
Posted 5/8/2003 8:44 AM (#69419 - in reply to #69398)
Subject: RE: Leader Snaps





Posts: 32924


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
I guess from what is here so far nothing is actually bulletproof. I am trying some leaders with split rings this year, and will see how my patience in changing a lure with split ring pliers holds up.
muskyone
Posted 5/8/2003 9:38 AM (#69430 - in reply to #69301)
Subject: RE: Leader Snaps





Posts: 1536


Location: God's Country......USA..... Western Wisconsin
I like the "Duke" snap as well. Being made again now by "Duke's" son and grandson. Also, my partner makes one that is incorporated into the leader wire itself. This is as good as it gets. I think Mark H. has a couple, maybe he can post a pic so everyone can see them.
ESOX Maniac
Posted 5/8/2003 6:55 PM (#69508 - in reply to #69430)
Subject: RE: Leader Snaps





Posts: 2754


Location: Mauston, Wisconsin

Gotta agree the Duke is the best I've found- better than the Stringease because both locks re under spring tension-virtually impossible to open. Even if the first should open the second is identical to a crosslock. I can't imagine losing a fish on one of these- Had the 44" @ Cass Lake last Sept. open the Berkley in the net- thank god. Ranger can verify my dismay/amazement. Go to http:www.thedukesnap.com  - tell Adam,  Al from ZaltNAD sent ya- he'll take good care of you- He also has some very high quality/innovative leaders and really neat bucktails- w/ real gold & silver plated blades + some great glow blades for nite fishing.

Al Warner

ZaltNAD

http://www.zaltnad.com

FishMan
Posted 5/8/2003 7:40 PM (#69517 - in reply to #69301)
Subject: RE: Leader Snaps




Posts: 167


Location: Girard Pa.
Have been using stringese snaps for 4 years and never had one open.You have to be sure you have the snap through the circle and hooked ,not hooked to the circle wire..I've seen a couple of guys who never used them do this .I garrantee it will open like that...Like the rounded end and are 2x as strong as berkley's at half the size Artie
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