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Location: Central Wisconsin | Has anyone used their wire leaders before? I picked some up at theWisconsin expo and when I got them out of the package they did not stretch like the demo he had.. I have read bad stories about the untied wire on here. These leaders are pretied. Any experience with them? |
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Location: Aurora | Saw them too and thought the stretch was unique being that they're made of solid wire or so the sales person said.
I remembered walking away wondering if you can twist them together but then I got distracted by something shiny and never went back. Weird that yours don't stretch like the demo did. |
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Location: Central Wisconsin | Yeah that's what I thought too. I wonder if I just wasn't pulling on it hard enough. |
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Location: central Wisconsin | The salesman showed me how they stretch also. He seemed to think that was a desireable quality, I cannot see why I would want my leader to stretch so I passed. |
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Location: Central Wisconsin | Yeah I hear you about the streching. I think the no memory is what sold my brother and myself. Will try them in cave run later this month. Hopefully I don't lose a fish because of them. |
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| i just hope the nickel they add to the titanium will make them safer to use than pure titanium.i have high hope for this specially for small cranks,but i will wait and see the reviews |
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Location: Mt. Zion, IL | jano - 3/4/2014 3:39 PM
i just hope the nickel they add to the titanium will make them safer to use than pure titanium.i have high hope for this specially for small cranks,but i will wait and see the reviews
The titanium leaders and spinnerbaits have always been made of Nitinol which is already a nickel titanium alloy. |
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| RyanJoz
so that leader is just a regular TITANIUM LEADER nothing new?? |
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Location: Mt. Zion, IL | jano - 3/4/2014 7:12 PM
RyanJoz
so that leader is just a regular TITANIUM LEADER nothing new??
I don't know what has changed to allow them to stretch, but the titanium leaders now do contain nickel. |
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Location: Aurora | Anyone know if you can haywire twist this material? |
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| I have used this stuff for awhile now and love it. I simply use a clinch knot and finish with thin shrink tubing over the knot. Have not had any failures. The material just doesn't kink, and lasts a long time. I have used the same leader for a whole season, and only change them because all metals do fatigue over time and I change them as a preventative measure. You probably won't notice the stretch too much with the higher pound tests. I use the 75 lbs.
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| Sidejack - 3/4/2014 7:48 PM
Anyone know if you can haywire twist this material?
You can't haywire twist this material.
You just can crimp or knot it.
esoxone |
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| have had terrible luck in the past with titanium leaders. I checked these out at show and was not impressed. Seemed not strong enough for musky to me. I don't like things stretching either, not good for hook sets...IMO |
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Location: New Hope MN | What was wrong with the old titanium leaders? |
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Location: Central Wisconsin | figure8out - 3/5/2014 3:47 PM
package says you can knot this stuff but i played hell and could not pull the knot tight, used several different knots to test not one knot could be pulled tight or nowhere near it i will not crimp.
If you looked at his knots on the two rings, you would have noticed that they were not tight either. Bucher leaders were always tied too ( not overly tight ), never had a problem with them. |
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| No doubt, knots are easier to tie with the thinner diameters. I am going to make up some lighter ones this year to try out. The 75 lbs test is a tricky one to tie, but I only use a single wrap on the clinch and it holds and lasts. The shrink tubing insures it won't move, also. I have used them exclusively for 5 years now, and won't be using anything else, for what it's worth. They've stood up to some nice fish, too. |
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Location: Franklin, WI | I've tried to haywire twist them to no avail...too much memory. If you over bend them they weaken (metal fatigue) to the point where you wouldn't trust them. Only use the knot they recommend. They work great. I've used them on swim jigs for years and have never had one fail. A 10" leader actually stretches almost an inch. |
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| dtaijo174 - 3/5/2014 5:23 PM
What was wrong with the old titanium leaders?
broke without any visual warning,that's why almost everybody stop using titanium.
imo was very unsafe compared to fluro |
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Location: Nowhere near where I should be | Well thanks for preserving my post riverrat351, seems to have been deleted, I could not get the 100 lb as tight as i would have liked, I did see his knot but at its tightest I could still thread a pencil through the knots I tied, sorry thats just too bulky. |
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Location: Manitowish Waters WI | I tried tying several knots with the 100lb and could not get any to cinch tight enough to feel safe. I now use it for spring bobber material on my ice jig rods, pricey but works great! |
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Location: Minnesota: where it's tough to be a sportsfan! | I bought some to test. I have not been able to tie a knot with it that I would take fishing on my line. I figured I'll let it sit for awhile try it again until I get it figured out. But I imagine just like the haywire with 7 strand the light lb test the easier to work with. |
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| Haywire Twist was the best for titanium so i think it should be a good one for this stuff |
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| Haywire twist does not work. Try a perfection loop, tuck the tag end back into the knot and heat shrink over it, i havent used it for musky but i use it in 20 and 40lb on my pike setups.
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Location: minnesota | The engineers who use this stuff for medical guide wires use a technique the call "killing" it before the try to shape it.
It involves heating a section of the wire either with a shorted electric charge from a low voltage dc current. I've made springs, bucktails, etc. out of it by bending it into the shape I want, securing it, then heating it with a torch for a micro second and it will retain the shape it was in when you "killed" it.
I'm not suggesting it's "the way to go" for leaders, only sharing a bit of info.
My late friend Doug Hannon and I were experimenting with coil springs we made from it as a replacement for the springs that hold the brushes in place for electric trolling motors in order to make them less noisy. Yes, it worked.
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