Here's a new video from Shimano. They're not just changing the reel industry; they've got new Compre's out for 2012. Hopefully Lary Dahlberg will chime in and give more explanation.
Posted 12/13/2011 2:50 PM (#528590 - in reply to #528550) Subject: Re: New Shimano Video: Compre Rods
Ronix - 12/13/2011 11:06 AM
yeah I read that but in the video it looks longer im not sure if thats because they increased the foregrip length or what? they look sharp though!
They do look longer in the video. It's hard to say. I have an old 7'6" Compre that has a rear section that's slightly over 14-1/4" from the butt to the back of the reel seat (just the cork part). I couldn't imagine they would make them smaller on the new rods, especially since they're making 8'6" and 9' rods now.
Posted 12/13/2011 3:09 PM (#528594 - in reply to #528542) Subject: Re: New Shimano Video: Compre Rods
Saw them today at Cabelas. Nice rods, feels solid. The handle is not longer than 14". Light rod, but tip heavy. If you put a rod balancer on you would pick up a couple of inces in the butt and probably be fine. Retail was $155.
Posted 12/14/2011 1:33 PM (#528719 - in reply to #528657) Subject: Re: New Shimano Video: Compre Rods
esoxone - 12/14/2011 6:30 AM
catchandrelease - 12/13/2011 2:42 PM
esoxone - 12/13/2011 3:25 PM
I have a jerkbait rod made ??by Balzer with the same system.
It works very well !!!
esoxone
How does it work exactly? I didn't think it was like a standard two-piece rod.
It works as a one-piece rod.Great action.
esoxone
But how? He pulls (twists) it apart as if it were a traditional two-piece rod, but I was under the impression they were more like a telescopic rod. In a telescoping rod, the end is tapered and you are unable to pull both pieces apart (without breaking the rod), and you definitely can't put them back together. I'm a little confused as to how it works.
Guest
Posted 12/14/2011 2:20 PM (#528733 - in reply to #528444) Subject: RE: New Shimano Video: Compre Rods
It's a simple multi-ply graphite spigot ferrule developed for the saltwater Trevala rod series, which, incidentally I've used to hoist up 400 pound groupers under 80+lbs of drag and never broken one.
Since it's placement is far enough rearward, and behind where the rod "holds out" or quits bending, (actually under the foregrip), unlike conventional two-piece rods, it has no effect what so ever on the way the actual blade portion of the rod performs in any function.
It comes apart just like a regular ferrule.
If you prefer a different handle type, with this design it's quite simple to totally strip and re-work the handle because you don't have to remove the guides to do it like you would with any other rod!
Hope this helps clarify!
L Dahlberg
Posted 12/14/2011 2:26 PM (#528735 - in reply to #528444) Subject: Re: New Shimano Video: Compre Rods
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In fact are two pieces.
A very short (the handle) and the other much longer.
The rod works exclusively with the longest piece, that's why I wrote that it works like a one piece rod.
Posted 12/14/2011 3:30 PM (#528741 - in reply to #528444) Subject: Re: New Shimano Video: Compre Rods
Ok. I understand what everyone's saying now, I think. I need to see one in person though. So with the spigot ferrule it won't telescope at all, it's just like an improved two-piece rod that performs like a one-piece rod?
Posted 12/15/2011 11:49 AM (#528863 - in reply to #528741) Subject: Re: New Shimano Video: Compre Rods
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catchandrelease - 12/14/2011 3:30 PM
Ok. I understand what everyone's saying now, I think. I need to see one in person though. So with the spigot ferrule it won't telescope at all, it's just like an improved two-piece rod that performs like a one-piece rod?
Yes,it is.
Now the best thing is to see one in person.
esoxone
Teleman
Posted 12/15/2011 1:09 PM (#528871 - in reply to #528444) Subject: RE: New Shimano Video: Compre Rods
I understand the design concept, but I'm not sold on it. Have others experienced issues with the line rubbing on the rod as Larry showed? I know I haven't. Even if it were an issue, wouldn't putting a larger first guide remedy the problem (keeps the line angle higher off the blank)? What about storage in a rod locker? I could see the two pieces flopping around and damaging themselves or other rods in the locker.
Posted 12/15/2011 2:34 PM (#528878 - in reply to #528871) Subject: RE: New Shimano Video: Compre Rods
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I`m wondering if the rod can handle casting all day with it not coming apart or loose or even getting turned sideways which will make your guides off center,like the design though,might pick one up and try it out.
Posted 12/15/2011 2:48 PM (#528880 - in reply to #528444) Subject: Re: New Shimano Video: Compre Rods
I tested my TI rod and it did not touch. I don't think I did it wrong, it's a pretty simple test. I'm a little skeptical about the rods falling apart as well; I've seen traditional two-piece rods come apart on multiple occasions. Not saying this one will or not, just a concern I have.
Posted 12/16/2011 4:41 PM (#529054 - in reply to #528444) Subject: Re: New Shimano Video: Compre Rods
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I tested my balzer and I have not had problem with the spigot ferrule.My Balzer is 6'6'' long and I use it wiht jerkbaits.
TI are Excellent rods( I own two and I was the first to have them in my country and one of the first to have them in Europe) !!!
Posted 12/21/2011 9:02 PM (#529706 - in reply to #529054) Subject: Re: New Shimano Video: Compre Rods
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I looked at one today at cabelas with a split grip,felt heavy in the rear end of the rod,like it had a 20 oz reel on it already,rod was a 9fter,looked liked they also had a 8ft rod also,cabelas in richfield
Posted 12/22/2011 12:03 PM (#529788 - in reply to #528871) Subject: RE: New Shimano Video: Compre Rods
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Location: Detroit River
Teleman - 12/15/2011 2:09 PM
I understand the design concept, but I'm not sold on it. Have others experienced issues with the line rubbing on the rod as Larry showed? I know I haven't. Even if it were an issue, wouldn't putting a larger first guide remedy the problem (keeps the line angle higher off the blank)? What about storage in a rod locker? I could see the two pieces flopping around and damaging themselves or other rods in the locker.
I'm not sold on it either. I have a 9' XH Telescopic TI rod that I use to jig Bondy Baits in the Detroit River & even when I snag the bottom my line doesn't touch the rod. In the video it doesn't look like (to me) Larry is pulling as hard on the Shimano rod as he is the other. I'd be too concerned about the rod pulling apart on a fish or if I got snagged on the river bottom.
Posted 12/22/2011 12:58 PM (#529799 - in reply to #528444) Subject: Re: New Shimano Video: Compre Rods
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Ive used a 2 piece version of Jason Hamernicks The Hamer rod (available here in Sweden).
I havent had any problems with the joint sliding or twisting at all.
Since the joint is just above the handle it pretty much doesn't make a difference when fishing at all!
muskeeej
Posted 11/17/2013 6:03 PM (#673936 - in reply to #528444) Subject: RE: New Shimano Video: Compre Rods
Does know anything about the new redesigned 2pc compre musky rods being pulled from production. quick question. how long is the front grip on the tooth tamer "jaw breaker"
Posted 11/17/2013 6:36 PM (#673946 - in reply to #528878) Subject: RE: New Shimano Video: Compre Rods
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CASTING55 - 12/15/2011 2:34 PM
I`m wondering if the rod can handle casting all day with it not coming apart or loose or even getting turned sideways which will make your guides off center,like the design though,might pick one up and try it out.
I have one and I actually have the opposite problem. Mine is stuck together so tight I can't get it apart any more.
Posted 11/19/2013 8:32 AM (#674282 - in reply to #673946) Subject: RE: New Shimano Video: Compre Rods
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LarryO - 11/17/2013 6:36 PM
CASTING55 - 12/15/2011 2:34 PM
I`m wondering if the rod can handle casting all day with it not coming apart or loose or even getting turned sideways which will make your guides off center,like the design though,might pick one up and try it out.
I have one and I actually have the opposite problem. Mine is stuck together so tight I can't get it apart any more.
Haha, if only that was the problem my brother in-law had with his 2 piece compre. Each time we go out there is some sort of an issue, heck there have been a few times where the top part has come off during the cast...
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