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Message Subject: Moon phase calenders
JOHN FALLON
Posted 8/26/2013 4:12 PM (#659681)
Subject: Moon phase calenders




Posts: 72


just curious to see what moon calenders are the most informative and accurate on the market ? Moon overhead , underfoot , etc....
ESOX Maniac
Posted 8/26/2013 5:02 PM (#659692 - in reply to #659681)
Subject: Re: Moon phase calenders





Posts: 2754


Location: Mauston, Wisconsin
LOL- NASA or NOAA!
miket55
Posted 8/27/2013 9:57 AM (#659836 - in reply to #659681)
Subject: Re: Moon phase calenders




Posts: 1321


Location: E. Tenn
http://www.solunarforecast.com/solunarcalendar.aspx

for what it's worth.
MartinTD
Posted 8/27/2013 10:41 AM (#659849 - in reply to #659836)
Subject: Re: Moon phase calenders




Posts: 1146


miket55 - 8/27/2013 9:57 AM

http://www.solunarforecast.com/solunarcalendar.aspx

for what it's worth.


I've been copying, pasting and reformatting this calendar in excel for a long time. Now within the past month you can not copy anything off of the page. Kinda sucks.

Edited by MartinTD 8/27/2013 10:42 AM
whynot
Posted 8/27/2013 11:13 AM (#659854 - in reply to #659681)
Subject: Re: Moon phase calenders




Posts: 897


Screen shot on your phone, then zoom in on it is what I do with solunarforecast.com.
Contender
Posted 8/27/2013 3:16 PM (#659921 - in reply to #659681)
Subject: Re: Moon phase calenders




Posts: 360


Location: Algonac, MI
Fish Time Pro app works great.
Brett Carroll
Posted 8/27/2013 3:18 PM (#659922 - in reply to #659921)
Subject: Re: Moon phase calenders




Posts: 696


Location: Northern Illinois
Contender - 8/27/2013 3:16 PM

Fish Time Pro app works great.


Is that for IPhone b/c I did not see it in Android?
BNelson
Posted 8/27/2013 4:04 PM (#659936 - in reply to #659681)
Subject: Re: Moon phase calenders





Location: Contrarian Island
alright throw a curveball at this one. In the past I always thougth and went by the majors were the hour before and hour after moon overhead and under foot...in looking at the site above, this site puts the major starting ON the moon overhead/underfoot and goes for 2 hours...I'm pretty sure the calendar in MHunter mag uses the hour before/after ..so who's 'right'...what is the major???? not that I fully believe in the majors / minors, i do believe in being on good spots/big fish at moon overhead/underfoot, rise and set but i'm curious what the true major is as now I'm seeing on this site they call it something different than Buchers calendar....anyone?
Contender
Posted 8/28/2013 1:56 PM (#660114 - in reply to #659922)
Subject: Re: Moon phase calenders




Posts: 360


Location: Algonac, MI
Brett Carroll - 8/27/2013 4:18 PM

Contender - 8/27/2013 3:16 PM

Fish Time Pro app works great.


Is that for IPhone b/c I did not see it in Android?


Sorry, yes I have an iPhone.
Nershi
Posted 8/28/2013 7:58 PM (#660177 - in reply to #659681)
Subject: Re: Moon phase calenders




Location: MN
I use best fishing times for iPhone. It uses your location and adjusts for the rises sets etc. I have never really compared it to others but it seems pretty accurate on moon rise and set so I would think underfoot overhead would be accurate. It puts the majors and minors 30 min or an hour on both sides of the moon set, rise etc. Also shows the current moon phase. After this season I have become a big believer in moon cycles especially full and new moon.
miket55
Posted 8/28/2013 10:20 PM (#660217 - in reply to #659936)
Subject: Re: Moon phase calenders




Posts: 1321


Location: E. Tenn
BNelson - 8/27/2013 5:04 PM

alright throw a curveball at this one. In the past I always thougth and went by the majors were the hour before and hour after moon overhead and under foot...in looking at the site above, this site puts the major starting ON the moon overhead/underfoot and goes for 2 hours...I'm pretty sure the calendar in MHunter mag uses the hour before/after ..so who's 'right'...what is the major???? not that I fully believe in the majors / minors, i do believe in being on good spots/big fish at moon overhead/underfoot, rise and set but i'm curious what the true major is as now I'm seeing on this site they call it something different than Buchers calendar....anyone?


http://www.solunar.com/the_real_scoop.aspx

This article doesn't address moon overhead, or underfoot, but does call attention to several other influential factors.

Edited by miket55 8/28/2013 10:21 PM
BNelson
Posted 8/29/2013 7:30 AM (#660245 - in reply to #659681)
Subject: Re: Moon phase calenders





Location: Contrarian Island
I looked at 3 or 4 different sites yesterday that showed majors for Madison WI... all 4 had different windows.. I had always thought the major was the hour before and after moon overhead and underfoot but the Alden Knight site above shows it starting on that and going 2 hours, some sites had it starting about 50 minutes before then going an hour and 10 minutes... guess I was wondering if anyone really has any information on what the 'right' major should be.....just odd how so many sites had the major period at different times...also interesting to me Joe Bucher makes no reference to overhead/underfoot (the majors) but guys like Gelb buy into those times being very productive.

Edited by BNelson 8/29/2013 7:32 AM
musky1969
Posted 8/29/2013 4:46 PM (#660353 - in reply to #659681)
Subject: Re: Moon phase calenders




Posts: 222


Something weird here we kept good track of the fish activity this last trip to the lotw and every day we had a lot of activity 2 hours before moon under foot and 2 hours before moonrise. It was everyday a different time during the day and that was because moon under foot and moon rise keep getting later. I just found that being strange!!! My 2 cent.
JOHN FALLON
Posted 8/29/2013 5:18 PM (#660359 - in reply to #659681)
Subject: Re: Moon phase calenders




Posts: 72


BNelson that is the exact reason why I started this post . Every one I tend to check into vary in their peak times .I fish hard and when I can no matter what these things say . I am just more concerned with the moon when I night troll. Always looking for that edge you know
horsehunter
Posted 8/29/2013 9:33 PM (#660394 - in reply to #659681)
Subject: Re: Moon phase calenders




Location: Eastern Ontario
Prime Time is whenever I'm in a boat. If I'm in a boat there's a chance I'll catch a fish if I'm doing yard work or working on the honey do list I won't. I never look at moon times till I come off the water. As Brendan Reid ( Gananoque Guide from the 60's and 70's) would say place your lure in the water and expect to catch a muskie RIGHT NOW.

Edited by horsehunter 8/29/2013 9:35 PM
Nershi
Posted 8/30/2013 8:17 AM (#660448 - in reply to #659681)
Subject: Re: Moon phase calenders




Location: MN
Horsehunter, it can be valuable to pay attention to. If I move a big fish I will come back at a moon event and try to get them to go when they are supposed to be more active. Sometimes it works. I agree you should fish when you can but IMO it is worth paying attention to the moon cycles when you are on the water. It has helped me this year.

Musky 1969 that is interesting that you say that. A lot of my action in the last couple weeks has been a couple hours before moonrise.
Stein
Posted 8/30/2013 8:31 AM (#660453 - in reply to #659681)
Subject: Re: Moon phase calenders





Posts: 199


Location: Nebraska
By the time you add up an hour before and after moon rise, moon set, moon overhead, moon underfoot, sunrise, sunset you might find a couple hours in a 24 hour day that aren't "prime". I'm with your position of "just fish when you can".

Edited by Stein 8/30/2013 8:32 AM
Propster
Posted 8/30/2013 9:02 AM (#660458 - in reply to #659681)
Subject: Re: Moon phase calenders




Posts: 1901


Location: MN
"I looked at 3 or 4 different sites yesterday that showed majors for Madison WI... all 4 had different windows"

And if you look at the book put out annually by John Alden Knight's widow, you'll get a 5th, and those aren't even necessarily related to overhead or underfoot. What it tells us is that it is all theory, no right or wrong. Some base it more heavily on lunar influences, some more on solar influences. Lots of anecdotal and some empirical evidence that there is a definite correlation. But like anything sometimes it works and others it doesn't. Same with approaching front, falling barometer, etc, etc. I've always wondered, if those are the times they are more likely to feed, what's the odds I get my bait in front of them prior to them filling their belly already?
Nershi
Posted 8/30/2013 12:07 PM (#660505 - in reply to #660453)
Subject: Re: Moon phase calenders




Location: MN
Stein - 8/30/2013 8:31 AM

By the time you add up an hour before and after moon rise, moon set, moon overhead, moon underfoot, sunrise, sunset you might find a couple hours in a 24 hour day that aren't "prime". I'm with your position of "just fish when you can".


Actually the moon phase's (for most of the calenders) are 6 hours a day assuming there are two majors and minors each day which does not happen all the time. 1 hour for minors and 2 hours for majors. So that is 1/4 of the day. If you add in an hour for sunrise and set you are at 8 hours or 1/3 of the day. If you add two hours for sunrise and set you are at 10 hours so not even half. So not quite a couple hours of the day. Do you go to an area that is known to produce fish near sunset? It seems that most guys do. That to me is the same as working prime spots right around a moonrise.
horsehunter
Posted 8/30/2013 2:58 PM (#660544 - in reply to #659681)
Subject: Re: Moon phase calenders




Location: Eastern Ontario
Except the moon can rise at 10 AM . I think it's the declining light that's magic.
BNelson
Posted 9/4/2013 3:09 PM (#661328 - in reply to #659681)
Subject: Re: Moon phase calenders





Location: Contrarian Island
I've been a big believer in the moon playing more of a role than we think for a long time... anything to "up the odds" is the way I look at it...some can scoff at it....but fine w me... to each their own... but when you look at many of the most succesful anglers for any type of fish they invariably all buy into it to some degree... I'm reading Alden Knights book moon up moon down and it's very interesting.... it makes sense to me... there have been just way too many big fish in my boat and others that correlate to a moon change, up/down, set/rise... to ignore it...it's not a magic bullet but can simply increase your odds of getting that one bite, or multiple bites that save the day/trip....
miket55
Posted 9/4/2013 6:15 PM (#661360 - in reply to #659681)
Subject: Re: Moon phase calenders




Posts: 1321


Location: E. Tenn
Just reread the chapter "The Moon" in Tom Gelb's book (pgs. 60-70)..
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