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DH.Pare
Posted 7/16/2013 7:00 PM (#652000)
Subject: Tail squeezing while Measuring fish.




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Location: Montreal, Que. Canada
Just wondering why it is common practice to squeeze the tail back to get a couple of inches or what ever it is vs. fanning the tail out which would seem to give a more acurite natural measurement ,not to take away from any body's fish? I realize it's to get those extra inches, have I answered myself or is there more to it?
thrax_johnson
Posted 7/16/2013 7:19 PM (#652004 - in reply to #652000)
Subject: Re: Tail squeezing while Measuring fish.





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Location: Bemidji, Lake Vermilion
Its the way that the DNR or most other freshwater conservation departments will measure your fish. Its called "total length" and is essentially the most common measurement used for freshwater fish. There is also the "standard length" which only measures essentially to the end of the "meat" at the front of the tail or "fork length" which only measures to the fork in the tail of most freshwater fish. If you don't choose to pinch for an accurate measurement that's fine. Try it sometime in a MN lake with slots on walleyes, pike, muskie minimums etc and that fish you thought you could keep but didn't pinch the tail on could really cost you big chaching!
muskie! nut
Posted 7/16/2013 7:56 PM (#652012 - in reply to #652004)
Subject: Re: Tail squeezing while Measuring fish.





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Location: Yahara River Chain
thrax_johnson - 7/16/2013 7:19 PM

Its the way that the DNR or most other freshwater conservation departments will measure your fish. Its called "total length"


Yes, that all that needs to be said and should be the end of this thread.
DH.Pare
Posted 7/17/2013 7:22 AM (#652069 - in reply to #652004)
Subject: Re: Tail squeezing while Measuring fish.




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Location: Montreal, Que. Canada
Thanks Brian,

That helps a lot. Will ask the DNR. ;- ).

David
Jerry Newman
Posted 7/17/2013 7:27 AM (#652071 - in reply to #652004)
Subject: Re: Tail squeezing while Measuring fish.




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thrax_johnson - 7/16/2013 7:19 PM Its the way that the DNR or most other freshwater conservation departments will measure your fish. Its called "total length" and is essentially the most common measurement used for freshwater fish. There is also the "standard length" which only measures essentially to the end of the "meat" at the front of the tail or "fork length" which only measures to the fork in the tail of most freshwater fish. If you don't choose to pinch for an accurate measurement that's fine. Try it sometime in a MN lake with slots on walleyes, pike, muskie minimums etc and that fish you thought you could keep but didn't pinch the tail on could really cost you big chaching!

Excellent point on the slot! YIKES!!!

Slamr
Posted 7/17/2013 9:24 AM (#652100 - in reply to #652000)
Subject: Re: Tail squeezing while Measuring fish.





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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
Why not? It's kind of the fish you caught to measure however you want and/or to say it's however big you want it to be.
Brian
Posted 7/17/2013 1:53 PM (#652206 - in reply to #652000)
Subject: RE: Tail squeezing while Measuring fish.


How much does a tail pinch add to the length? I know it varies with the length of the fish. For example, my dad caught a 45" measured without a pinch. So, what is the pinch length?

Brian
BenR
Posted 7/17/2013 1:57 PM (#652207 - in reply to #652206)
Subject: RE: Tail squeezing while Measuring fish.


Brian - 7/17/2013 1:53 PM

How much does a tail pinch add to the length? I know it varies with the length of the fish. For example, my dad caught a 45" measured without a pinch. So, what is the pinch length?

Brian


In GB, a 45' with pinchted tail is about 64". BR
DH.Pare
Posted 7/17/2013 2:15 PM (#652211 - in reply to #652207)
Subject: RE: Tail squeezing while Measuring fish.




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Location: Montreal, Que. Canada
WOW I had no idea it made that much of a difference....lol

It would give the 45" a couple of inches or so and seeing as its the norm and the DNR guys do it why not add it on I doubt the inch police will be at your door the very next day asking for proof ;- ).
curleytail
Posted 7/18/2013 7:28 AM (#652375 - in reply to #652206)
Subject: RE: Tail squeezing while Measuring fish.




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Location: Hayward, WI
Brian - 7/17/2013 1:53 PM

How much does a tail pinch add to the length? I know it varies with the length of the fish. For example, my dad caught a 45" measured without a pinch. So, what is the pinch length?

Brian


I'll have to pay attention next time I catch one and measure but I'd guess 45.25 or maybe 45.5. I don't think it makes a drastic difference.
dfkiii
Posted 7/18/2013 10:09 AM (#652409 - in reply to #652000)
Subject: Re: Tail squeezing while Measuring fish.





Location: Sawyer County, WI
My PB is a 48 incher. Guess I should have pinched the tail and gotten that 50" monkey off my back !
sworrall
Posted 7/18/2013 10:12 AM (#652411 - in reply to #652409)
Subject: Re: Tail squeezing while Measuring fish.





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Actually, that's not true. Many times a tail pinch will give you less, not more.
Flambeauski
Posted 7/18/2013 10:16 AM (#652414 - in reply to #652000)
Subject: Re: Tail squeezing while Measuring fish.




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Location: Smith Creek
I can tell you from experience that pinching tails rarely ends well. At best you get a drink poured on you, at worst you get punched in the eye.
DH.Pare
Posted 7/18/2013 11:42 AM (#652443 - in reply to #652414)
Subject: Re: Tail squeezing while Measuring fish.




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Location: Montreal, Que. Canada
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Junkman
Posted 7/18/2013 12:34 PM (#652451 - in reply to #652000)
Subject: Re: Tail squeezing while Measuring fish.




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When I was a kid, everybody got spankings on their birthday, one for each year. Then my mom would say, "And a pinch to grow and inch!" So, based on my mom...you gain an inch!
Ja Rule
Posted 7/18/2013 5:22 PM (#652507 - in reply to #652207)
Subject: RE: Tail squeezing while Measuring fish.




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BenR - 7/17/2013 1:57 PM

Brian - 7/17/2013 1:53 PM

How much does a tail pinch add to the length? I know it varies with the length of the fish. For example, my dad caught a 45" measured without a pinch. So, what is the pinch length?

Brian


In GB, a 45' with pinchted tail is about 64". BR



I hear its the same thing in the Hayward area. I've never fished there though so its hard for me to say for sure.
Northwind Mark
Posted 7/18/2013 5:29 PM (#652508 - in reply to #652414)
Subject: Re: Tail squeezing while Measuring fish.





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Location: Elgin, IL
Flambeauski - 7/18/2013 10:16 AM

I can tell you from experience that pinching tails rarely ends well. At best you get a drink poured on you, at worst you get punched in the eye.


This is the exact answer I was looking for...
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