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cave run legend
Posted 5/19/2013 3:05 PM (#642143)
Subject: running kicker motor off main fuel tank.





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Please see propster's questions.

Edited by cave run legend 5/19/2013 6:30 PM
tcbetka
Posted 5/19/2013 3:19 PM (#642144 - in reply to #642143)
Subject: Re: running kicker motor off main fuel tank.




Location: Green Bay, WI
I think much of the time, these boats use dual pick-ups for a kicker fuel supply. So both engines basically have their own fuel supply. That's the way my Tyee was anyway, and in my research into a new boat I see that mentioned a fair amount. For the Verado, its lift pump is pretty sensitive I was told--so the kicker needed its own fuel source. I don't know about the Optimax though, so I'd place a call to your local Merc dealer to inquire. Otherwise I'll bet Steve knows...given his experience with Mercs over the years.

Otherwise if you can't find the answer, I can pretty much guarantee someone who will know. Just PM me if you need the number, but I'll bet someone on this board has done this before.

TB
cave run legend
Posted 5/19/2013 3:25 PM (#642146 - in reply to #642144)
Subject: Re: running kicker motor off main fuel tank.





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Cool, thank you. My 2012 tracker pro guide v175 does not have dual hookups on the fuel tank. I have small tank right now but looking to get rid of some clutter.
Propster
Posted 5/19/2013 3:30 PM (#642147 - in reply to #642143)
Subject: Re: running kicker motor off main fuel tank.




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Location: MN
I cant help with your question, but have one of my own. Do both motors have to be the same - either oil injected or premix for this to work?
horsehunter
Posted 5/19/2013 3:51 PM (#642151 - in reply to #642143)
Subject: Re: running kicker motor off main fuel tank.




Location: Eastern Ontario
I can see value to running the kicker off its own portable tank then if you had a problem with your main fuel suply your kicker would get you home
jonnysled
Posted 5/19/2013 4:18 PM (#642154 - in reply to #642147)
Subject: Re: running kicker motor off main fuel tank.





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Location: minocqua, wi.
Propster - 5/19/2013 3:30 PM

I cant help with your question, but have one of my own. Do both motors have to be the same - either oil injected or premix for this to work?


there are options if you have both. you can install a separate "oiler" for your mix kicker and run it off of the main fuel line. i converted mine to that and it's been really convenient. pm me and i'll take some pictures or get you the information on how to do it.
Propster
Posted 5/19/2013 5:04 PM (#642164 - in reply to #642143)
Subject: Re: running kicker motor off main fuel tank.




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Location: MN
Before I consider that and you go to any trouble, my kickers's fuel tank is separate but in-boat. So not a big deal in that regard, I was more curious if I had a problem with the big motor fuel or tank, can it be run briefly off the pre-mixed kicker fuel? If so and it won't hurt anything to get the extra oil then I won't bother. Otherwise I would consider.
jonnysled
Posted 5/19/2013 5:36 PM (#642173 - in reply to #642143)
Subject: Re: running kicker motor off main fuel tank.





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Location: minocqua, wi.
i would imagine you would be ok but depending on how and how long you run it you could foul plugs. i was just not liking the space the extra fuel tank took with a 36-volt trolling motor set-up, stale fuel and convenience to just fill a tank and run either motor.
Propster
Posted 5/19/2013 6:19 PM (#642176 - in reply to #642143)
Subject: Re: running kicker motor off main fuel tank.




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Location: MN
What year is your 690? It doesn't have the spare built-in tank? Mine's a '95
jonnysled
Posted 5/19/2013 9:49 PM (#642210 - in reply to #642176)
Subject: Re: running kicker motor off main fuel tank.





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Location: minocqua, wi.
mine is a '94 ... smaller main tank than the vs series i believe. mine is the "c" with a deeper front ... 2-4mph slower pad but rated at 175hp.
Propster
Posted 5/19/2013 9:54 PM (#642213 - in reply to #642143)
Subject: Re: running kicker motor off main fuel tank.




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Location: MN
Ahh. Did you put a Suzuki on that or a Merc? I thought I recall it was the former but you've since had a ride in a Pro XS and think pretty highly of that? I have the 150 Merc XRi on mine and its been good to me but thinking about down the road
jonnysled
Posted 5/19/2013 10:12 PM (#642223 - in reply to #642213)
Subject: Re: running kicker motor off main fuel tank.





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Location: minocqua, wi.
mine had a 175xri and last year i put the pro-xs on it and am glad i did. it's amazing!!
tcbetka
Posted 5/19/2013 10:22 PM (#642225 - in reply to #642151)
Subject: Re: running kicker motor off main fuel tank.




Location: Green Bay, WI
horsehunter - 5/19/2013 3:51 PM

I can see value to running the kicker off its own portable tank then if you had a problem with your main fuel suply your kicker would get you home


Assuming a guy took the time to put fuel in the two tanks from different sources, it would probably be a good deal! It wouldn't do much good if you just filled each tank right from the same fuel pump.

TB
Propster
Posted 5/19/2013 10:26 PM (#642226 - in reply to #642143)
Subject: Re: running kicker motor off main fuel tank.




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Location: MN
Sled, was the motor a '94 also and what did you get for it?
jonnysled
Posted 5/19/2013 10:48 PM (#642230 - in reply to #642226)
Subject: Re: running kicker motor off main fuel tank.





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Location: minocqua, wi.
motor was a '94 and i got $2,500 for it, the pro-xs came with the 5 and drive warranty so total expense was not bad. my dealer made it easy and worthwhile. they held the old motor, marketed and sold it for me so i never had to touch it.
VMS
Posted 5/20/2013 6:50 AM (#642245 - in reply to #642143)
Subject: Re: running kicker motor off main fuel tank.





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Location: Elk River, Minnesota
Hiya,

Not sure what the original question was as it was deleted, but there are other options to run both motors off of the main tank source. I run an oil injected 2 stroke Johnson and a 4 stroke kicker. Here is how I made two lines from one main line from the tank...I installed a fuel/water separator (sierra brand, I believe). In the model I purchased, I was able to run the main line to the separator, then there were multiple outlet lines I could run from the separator. So...I ran two lines, each with their own primer bulbs coming from the separator. The separator itself is like a small reservoir, so it never gets sucked dry...and..if you are in a situation where you are using the kicker but need to get the main motor started to stay off rocks/shore due to wind, etc., you can.

Not sure how it would work with some of the V-6 or larger motors, but it should work.

Compatibility is such that if you are running 4 stroke, you are golden. If you run an injected 2 stroke, and your kicker is two stroke, I would think you would need to run an auxiliary tank, unless the kicker has an injection system as well. I sold my 2 stroke kicker to go with a 4 stroke, just to get rid of having the auxiliary tank sitting in my splash well (the only place it was out of the way, yet secure enough to run).

Steve
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