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Location: MN | Richard, I sent Dawn the stock drag washers out of my 400D so she could match them up and put together a set for the D, which she has. Two are pretty decent, not their usual dartanium though, but two are that soft fiber that I don't care for. As you point out, since they only run a 4-washer system I agree with you in switching to the carbontex drag washers. Since you've got 20 of them to pimp, I'd stock up on them and encourage everyone to have you do that as well. |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | Propster - 3/8/2013 10:00 PM
Richard, I sent Dawn the stock drag washers out of my 400D so she could match them up and put together a set for the D, which she has. Two are pretty decent, not their usual dartanium though, but two are that soft fiber that I don't care for. As you point out, since they only run a 4-washer system I agree with you in switching to the carbontex drag washers. Since you've got 20 of them to pimp, I'd stock up on them and encourage everyone to have you do that as well.
Right now I'm so Busy, glad U had the time to do that, I'll give Dawn a call and order some for the D reels. The stock drag washers are only good for a year or 2 and then they get very jerky and loose alot of the top end stopping power.
SEE U at the MN Show. |
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Location: MN | PM, do you have to pull the spool pin to replace the spool plastic bushing with a bearing on an LJV? Did you make a special tool to do so? With as busy as you are and I am, I'm thinking about just throwing that bearing in myself. Thanks |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | Propster - 3/9/2013 3:14 AM
PM, do you have to pull the spool pin to replace the spool plastic bushing with a bearing on an LJV? Did you make a special tool to do so? With as busy as you are and I am, I'm thinking about just throwing that bearing in myself. Thanks
DO NOT TRY to remove the spool pin using a pin and hammer, U will damage the shaft. I have made spool pin pliers to remove the pin without any damage to the spool shaft. So send it to me and I can do it for U or bring it to the MN Show and I can do it there for U.
Here is a pic of the 400D spool pin see anything funny in the PIC ???
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Location: MN | Richard, please do bring your pliers and some spool shaft bearings, and I'll have you do both the LJV and D at the MN show, and buy you a couple beers at the swap! On the D I see the pin doesn't stick out the other side like the TE. Does that make it more difficult for you to remove? |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | Propster - 3/9/2013 11:40 AM
Richard, please do bring your pliers and some spool shaft bearings, and I'll have you do both the LJV and D at the MN show, and buy you a couple beers at the swap! On the D I see the pin doesn't stick out the other side like the TE. Does that make it more difficult for you to remove?
Will do.
My friend from JAPAN who works for Shimano said that all reels with X-SHip are set up that way, it eliminates potential noise when reeling in under no load. He said they have tested it that way and find this way works for the X - Ship reels. |
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Location: Denmark | Thanks Richard, I was also wondering why the spool shaft pin, looked like that. Just spooled mine up with Tuff Line, can't wait until ice out. |
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Location: central Wisconsin | Killerbug - 3/9/2013 3:22 PM
Thanks Richard, I was also wondering why the spool shaft pin, looked like that. Just spooled mine up with Tuff Line, can't wait until ice out.
I actually took both of mine apart when I noticed that pin on one just to make sure that they were supposed to be that way. |
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Location: MN | So I put the 300 gears in a 400 for a friend, converting it from 5.1:1 to 5.6:1. The line pickup on the 400 originally was exactly as advertised, 27" per turn of the handle. After swapping gears it went to 31.25" per turn. Technically, at least on his, he gained 1.25" more than the 30" claimed for the 300. This was with 80# Cortland Masterbraid with the spool filled just past the lip to where you can't pull the spool out of the frame without first peeling some line off. Theoretically by increasing the gear ratio he's created an even faster retrieve due to the wider spool and gained spool capacity, perhaps allowing him to get more line of the same diameter, or similar yards of a larger diameter line on the spool. |
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Location: MN | Forgot to mention he'll also have the advantage of the longer handle on the Frankenreel vs the 300. |
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| Propster births a 400-size Calcutta with 30+" per crank
and all people wanna talk about is baits that never caught a musky and lure color
props dude
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | Propster - 3/16/2013 4:06 PM
Forgot to mention he'll also have the advantage of the longer handle on the Frankenreel vs the 300.
??? the 300D and the 400D have the same size handle part # 4525
Before the D reels came out Shimano did say that the 400 had a longer handle then the 300 but the production reels they have the same handle for both the 300D and the 400D reels. |
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| Them gears sound perfect. Thanks for the info |
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Location: MN | PM is right as usual on the handle length, I was going off some wrong info on that part. |
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Location: Forest Lake, MN & Bemidji, MN | Question for the previous posters regarding swapping the 300D gears into the 400D. Does this modification make the modified 400D the "best" all purpose reel in your opinions? I am assuming the 400D with this modification will still maintain a power advantage over the 300D due to the larger spool, is that accurate? With 31.25" of line pick up and a high gear ratio it seems you would be able to fish most any bait at varying speeds (average to burning) without having to worrying about destroying the reel. I want to find one reel that can handle large baits, fast or slow all day. This modification sounds like the right mix to me. I am a lefty (I know it would be a 401D) so the tranx is not an option. Thanks for the great information already! Jeremy |
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| Without having casted my 400D yet this is just conjecture, but I would imagine that swapping the gears for the 300D gears probably had a "cost" in the torque department. The question is "how much" with regards to how great that modification will end up being. What you throw will play in there as well.
IMO you want at least 36" per crank to really burn, but if the fish eats, who cares? |
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Location: MN | Regarding the last two posts, I would generally agree. Has to be some either loss of power or else a feeling of greater resistance w/higher resistance baits such as dbl tens. And the proof won't be till one throws several bait options and retrieves them. With the additional snow we're getting today and the forecast, will be awhile before I find any open water 
The gentlemean I did this for (and it was a 401/301 conversion by the way) has another reel he likes for throwing dbl tens. He wanted the larger capacity spool with a faster retrieve for jerks and dbl 8's and things like that. He is pleased to hear it turned out as well as it did, but until he's had a chance to play with it a bit, it remains to be seen if it accomplished his goal and if he likes it. |
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| The reel should have the exact same power/torque as a 300D, possibly a little less, but I would hiighly doubt it would be noticable to the angler. |
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| Good news,Keith !!!! The Frankreel will work very well !!!
Now,you have just to change the 400D's line guide with the 400 TE's line guide and the Frankreel will be perfect !!!
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Location: MN | Ryan, I meant as compared to the original 400 with 5.1:1 ratio. You are correct as compared to the 300. |
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