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Message Subject: Adding Weight to Bucktails
Guest
Posted 12/27/2011 10:58 AM (#530215)
Subject: Adding Weight to Bucktails


Guys,
I have a bunch of 1-3 oz egg weights that I want to add to some bucktails (Northland Boobie Traps).
Does anyone have any tips to do this correctly? I struggled to "unwind" the eyelet to take the entire bait apart.
Do any of you add weight to the leader or the main line above the leader?
I want to get some of my bucktails down deeper next year.
Are there any bucktail brands that are better for modifications?
Thanks!
Nate O
Posted 12/27/2011 11:08 AM (#530216 - in reply to #530215)
Subject: RE: Adding Weight to Bucktails


A quick easy way to weight bucktails is to wrap lead solder around the weight/shaft area directly in front of the hook. A big advantage to weighting bucktails this way is that it is easily removable in case the you ever need to return the bucktail to its original weight.
AWH
Posted 12/27/2011 11:11 AM (#530218 - in reply to #530215)
Subject: RE: Adding Weight to Bucktails





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Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN
The best and easiest way to add weight to your bucktails like you are thinking is to simply use a weighted leader like Stealth Tackle makes. They make them in 1/2, 3/4 and 1 ounce weights and do a great job in helping to achieve added depths. Not just for bucktails either.

To use the weights you already have, the best bet is to re-shaft the entire bucktail, which may be more work than it's worth. With the weighted leaders it also gives you more versatility to quickly play with different weights.

Aaron
Zib
Posted 12/27/2011 11:29 AM (#530220 - in reply to #530215)
Subject: RE: Adding Weight to Bucktails





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Location: Detroit River
The easiest & cheapest way to add weight to your bucktails is to take the rubber out of a rubber core sinker & squeeze/crimp the weight to the wire shaft.
guest
Posted 12/27/2011 11:47 AM (#530221 - in reply to #530215)
Subject: RE: Adding Weight to Bucktails


i believe if you call Dan w/ Spanky baits and he'll make them however you want
MuskieSwede
Posted 12/27/2011 1:36 PM (#530236 - in reply to #530215)
Subject: Re: Adding Weight to Bucktails




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Buy bucktail wire, cut of the top eye of the bucktail, place the parts on the bought bucktail wire and just put your choice of sinker instead of the original one.

MartinTD
Posted 12/27/2011 1:41 PM (#530239 - in reply to #530216)
Subject: RE: Adding Weight to Bucktails





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Location: NorthCentral WI
Nate O - 12/27/2011 11:08 AM

A quick easy way to weight bucktails is to wrap lead solder around the weight/shaft area directly in front of the hook. A big advantage to weighting bucktails this way is that it is easily removable in case the you ever need to return the bucktail to its original weight.


+1. Easy and removable.

Easiest way to redo them and use the egg sinkers would be cut the shaft just inside of the twists and re-loop and twist it - this way you're shaft will end up 1-2" shorter though and doesn't always work.

Otherwise buy a few new shafts and redo them. Easy enough too.
Guest
Posted 12/27/2011 2:24 PM (#530247 - in reply to #530216)
Subject: RE: Adding Weight to Bucktails


Nate O - 12/27/2011 11:08 AM

A quick easy way to weight bucktails is to wrap lead solder around the weight/shaft area directly in front of the hook. A big advantage to weighting bucktails this way is that it is easily removable in case the you ever need to return the bucktail to its original weight.


How much solder do you add, and about how much weight does that add overall? Also, how much deeper does that make a bucktail run?
Pal
Posted 12/27/2011 3:13 PM (#530254 - in reply to #530236)
Subject: Re: Adding Weight to Bucktails




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Location: Twin Cities, MN
MuskieSwede - 12/27/2011 1:36 PM

Buy bucktail wire, cut of the top eye of the bucktail, place the parts on the bought bucktail wire and just put your choice of sinker instead of the original one.



Yes, very easy to do, I have done it to a number of my bucktails I want to run deeper or add more weight to.

Pal
Tim Schmitz
Posted 12/27/2011 3:14 PM (#530255 - in reply to #530247)
Subject: Re: Adding Weight to Bucktails




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Location: MN
I've been using bell sinkers from 1-3oz and splitrining then on the shaft just above the rear hook. That's been the easiest way I've found.
missourimuskyhunter
Posted 12/27/2011 3:16 PM (#530256 - in reply to #530215)
Subject: RE: Adding Weight to Bucktails





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Location: Lebanon,Mo
How about a splitring and bell sinker right above the egg sinker on the shaft.Easy to put on and off.
NateOz
Posted 12/27/2011 3:30 PM (#530259 - in reply to #530247)
Subject: RE: Adding Weight to Bucktails





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Location: North/Central WI
Guest - 12/27/2011 2:24 PM

Nate O - 12/27/2011 11:08 AM

A quick easy way to weight bucktails is to wrap lead solder around the weight/shaft area directly in front of the hook. A big advantage to weighting bucktails this way is that it is easily removable in case the you ever need to return the bucktail to its original weight.


How much solder do you add, and about how much weight does that add overall? Also, how much deeper does that make a bucktail run?


On a dcg or junior dcg, I typically start wrapping the solder directly above the weight and continue to wrap the solder around the weight in as tight of coils as possible. I stop wrapping the solder on the shrink tube...about where the split ring is. I can't say I have ever weighed one after adding the solder...a wild guess would be 1 - 1 1/2 oz of additonal weight. I might have to weigh one before and after just to see how much weight it actually adds. The change in running depth due to the added weight is going to depend on a lot of variables - size of blade(s), retrieve speed, line diameter, etc. All I know is wiith a dbl 10 weighted like this...I can burn it with a hs reel without it blowing out of the water, cast it much farther and into the wind better, keep it down 5'-8' with a moderate retrieve if I am fishing deeper structure, count it down 10 seconds and slow roll it 15'-20' down, and remove the weight in about a minute if I want to use the same bait in shallow weeds with a slower retrieve.
Jeff Hanson
Posted 12/27/2011 3:53 PM (#530261 - in reply to #530259)
Subject: RE: Adding Weight to Bucktails




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As some one else mentioned, the weighted leaders from Stealth tackle are the way to go, double 10's stay deep with 1oz leader. even when reeled fast.
They also work great on Suicks, Bobbies, foolers, medussa's and dawgs. It even increases the action on these baits.
Jeff Hanson
madisonmuskyguide.com
addict
Posted 12/27/2011 4:33 PM (#530265 - in reply to #530215)
Subject: RE: Adding Weight to Bucktails


Split rings and bell sinkers. Two seconds and you're done....be it increasing weight or removing all weight. No wrapping, no changing leaders.

Many bucktails already have split rings on them, but gotta watch the relationship of the blade to the weight you're adding. The blade can hit the lead, goofing up your spinning. Seems worst on the pre-fab add-on Inhaler double 9s. I bought a set of these, just the blades. Meant as a mix 'n match setup so you can swap these out for a different front half of a bucktail. Had to adjust my split ring position because the blade would hit the sinker on the bottom of the rotation.
Tackle Industries
Posted 12/27/2011 6:55 PM (#530279 - in reply to #530215)
Subject: Re: Adding Weight to Bucktails





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Location: Land of the Musky
Weighted Stealth leaders are great.

jasonvkop
Posted 12/27/2011 11:14 PM (#530314 - in reply to #530255)
Subject: Re: Adding Weight to Bucktails





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Location: Michigan
Tim Schmitz - 12/27/2011 4:14 PM

I've been using bell sinkers from 1-3oz and splitrining then on the shaft just above the rear hook. That's been the easiest way I've found.

+1 on that. Very easy and quick to do. You can do it in 2 seconds in the boat and if you don't want the weight anymore all you have to do is unclip it from the split ring.
NOFEAR
Posted 1/28/2013 8:18 PM (#613098 - in reply to #530314)
Subject: Re: Adding Weight to Bucktails




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jasonvkop - 12/27/2011 11:14 PM

Tim Schmitz - 12/27/2011 4:14 PM

I've been using bell sinkers from 1-3oz and splitrining then on the shaft just above the rear hook. That's been the easiest way I've found.

+1 on that. Very easy and quick to do. You can do it in 2 seconds in the boat and if you don't want the weight anymore all you have to do is unclip it from the split ring.


Ditto!
Guest
Posted 1/29/2013 12:11 AM (#613137 - in reply to #530215)
Subject: RE: Adding Weight to Bucktails


say adios to your bucktails when the wire that hold your bell sinker will broke!
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