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| Samantha - 1/4/2013 12:27 PM
esoxaddict - 1/4/2013 12:11 PM Lots of factors involved there... Look at "our" lake for example - there might be 200 adult muskies in the entire lake. And the larger fish would be upwards of 20 years old. Start eating them, and it won't be long before there just aren't many left, because there aren't many there to begin with. Contrast that with walleyes, estimates of which are upwards of 3-5 fish per acre. You're talking about 1500 - 2500 adult walleyes in the lake. They grow faster, they have better recruitment, and are easily sustained, even with the spearing quotas in place. Another reason is that muskies are very expensive to raise and stock. And a lot of lakes have little or no natural reproduction, so the only muskies in there are muskies that were bought and paid for by the DNR, which has a very limited budget. Well would it be too far fetched to say that if you allowed a certain limit for eater sized fish like they have on some lakes that it would actually HELP the growth and spawning and natural sustainability of muskies?
There are lakes where some harvest would help. Identifying which ones and managing them seperately is probably not realistic considering the sheer number of lakes. Spawning is a whole different issue. My understanding of that is that a lot of lakes just don't have the right substrate for the eggs to survive. Too much runoff, too much sand/silt on the shoreline from development, water that warms too quickly in the spring...
They still go through the motions, but the eggs never reach maturity.
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Location: minocqua, wi. | aren't you two dating? |
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| jonnysled - 1/4/2013 1:05 PM aren't you two dating? Yes, for nearly 4 years, why? |
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| esoxaddict - 1/4/2013 12:55 PM Samantha - 1/4/2013 12:27 PM esoxaddict - 1/4/2013 12:11 PM Lots of factors involved there... Look at "our" lake for example - there might be 200 adult muskies in the entire lake. And the larger fish would be upwards of 20 years old. Start eating them, and it won't be long before there just aren't many left, because there aren't many there to begin with. Contrast that with walleyes, estimates of which are upwards of 3-5 fish per acre. You're talking about 1500 - 2500 adult walleyes in the lake. They grow faster, they have better recruitment, and are easily sustained, even with the spearing quotas in place. Another reason is that muskies are very expensive to raise and stock. And a lot of lakes have little or no natural reproduction, so the only muskies in there are muskies that were bought and paid for by the DNR, which has a very limited budget. Well would it be too far fetched to say that if you allowed a certain limit for eater sized fish like they have on some lakes that it would actually HELP the growth and spawning and natural sustainability of muskies? There are lakes where some harvest would help. Identifying which ones and managing them seperately is probably not realistic considering the sheer number of lakes. Spawning is a whole different issue. My understanding of that is that a lot of lakes just don't have the right substrate for the eggs to survive. Too much runoff, too much sand/silt on the shoreline from development, water that warms too quickly in the spring... They still go through the motions, but the eggs never reach maturity. Well if they can't reproduce there on their own why keep stocking them? Why not take that and stop them in bodies of water where they can manage their own populations - with the help of responsible anglers obviously. |
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| That would eliminate most of the fisheries in IL, IN, TN, S. WI, and many other places. You know those little lakes we fish up North? Think about what they would look like on a weekend if the only places to catch muskies were where they reproduce on their own. *shudder*
We need to get you out on the Fox Chain on a Saturday in July. That should answer your question. |
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| jonnysled - 1/4/2013 1:05 PM
aren't you two dating?
Yeah, but we don't talk much! How do you think we made it four years?  |
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| esoxaddict - 1/4/2013 1:59 PM That would eliminate most of the fisheries in IL, IN, TN, S. WI, and many other places. You know those little lakes we fish up North? Think about what they would look like on a weekend if the only places to catch muskies were where they reproduce on their own. *shudder* We need to get you out on the Fox Chain on a Saturday in July. That should answer your question. Ah okay, I have a very clear picture in my mind now. Yeah, let's stock all the places we can. i don't want my little lakes to be the Fox Chain! I've heard stories. Those who want it can keep it. |
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| esoxaddict - 1/4/2013 2:32 PM jonnysled - 1/4/2013 1:05 PM aren't you two dating? Yeah, but we don't talk much! How do you think we made it four years? ; ) Well we do, I just don't listen.  |
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| Samantha - 1/4/2013 2:59 PM
esoxaddict - 1/4/2013 2:32 PM jonnysled - 1/4/2013 1:05 PM aren't you two dating? Yeah, but we don't talk much! How do you think we made it four years? ; ) Well we do, I just don't listen.
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Location: oswego, il | Sled, I think they went over on their data plan. |
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Location: West Chester, OH | ToddM - 1/4/2013 9:36 AM
The fillets are long and make a great sub sandwich. You fillet out a couple 50's and you can serve up a pretty big party of people. Pitching a major sub shop chain on the idea this morning to get the commercial fishing rights for the meat.
You go, Todd!
Greetings from the home of the soon to be Super Bowl Champions! 
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Location: Sun Prairie, WI | Many, many, years ago, it was very common to eat musky. Either cut in steaks and baked or smoked. Almost as good as pike, which are about the best fish there is to eat. |
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| Back in the 1970s, I had it a couple times. It was baked both times, at a high heat. The cook coated it with a flour mixture. The flour soaked up the oil, then you peeled off the skin and ate the meat, dipping in melted butter. Have since done this with large northern pike and it is very good. |
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| North of 8 - 1/6/2013 6:43 PM
Back in the 1970s, I had it a couple times. It was baked both times, at a high heat. The cook coated it with a flour mixture. The flour soaked up the oil, then you peeled off the skin and ate the meat, dipping in melted butter. Have since done this with large northern pike and it is very good.
I was pretty well baked in the 80's... |
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| 50"ers taste a lot like bald eagle |
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| Sled this topic is beautiful. And they taste real good toooooooo |
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| Johnnysled has a good point. In CERTAIN waters, Muskies can overpopulate and stunt like any other fish. In most waters I would support total C&R. They are apex predators. Selective harvest/slots for other gamefish and panfish. Total C&R for all species is not a good idea and sometimes backfires. |
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Location: B;acksburg Virginia | i had a 49 incher die on me about 5 years ago, only one i have ever kept. i took it home filleted it out and rolled it in a cornmeal, flower and spice mixture and pan fried it in a little olive oil. it was great tender flakey meat very good eatin |
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| Catch a muskie leave it out on a rock pile. Soon after an eagle will eat it. Find the Eagle. kill the Eagle and eat this famous dish the Indian call "Eaglkie" |
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| MuskyStalker - 1/10/2013 10:28 AM Johnnysled has a good point. In CERTAIN waters, Muskies can overpopulate and stunt like any other fish. In most waters I would support total C&R. They are apex predators. Selective harvest/slots for other gamefish and panfish. Total C&R for all species is not a good idea and sometimes backfires. Maybe we can eat more muskies from those lakes. Funny that I have no problem with eating a pike, but muskies are sacred to me. back in the water they go. I don't think I would eat an Eagle either. Or an eaglkie lol.
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| Samantha - 1/11/2013 8:35 AM
. Funny that I have no problem with eating a pike, but muskies are sacred to me.
They are totally different species. I eat pike also because they are delicious and handle the harvest in the bodies of water I take them from. |
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