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| Looked for info on the net for various depths of both lures for speed/ft of line out and couldnt find anything. Anybody have and general info on running depths with feet out on these lure? I cant stomach crashing bottom to find out depths....
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| The Plow is one of the lures in Musky Mikes Trolling book. |
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Location: MN | I haven't confirmed if this is accurate but heard the Bigwood Supernatural / Headlock on shallow setting will run 14-16ft deep w/ 60ft of 100lb line at 3.30mph. |
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| the plow is in there.. go to MTO or Drifter Tackle.. has list or partial list anyways.. |
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| Got the info on the plow off a buddy from his book thanks for the recomendation! Anybody even using supernaturals? I was amazed when i got it and really looks great in the water but think im gonna give it some more run time this fall. |
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Location: Bemidji, Lake Vermilion | Lots guys are using Supernaturals and Headlocks. Not many are "saying" they are using them. Experiment a little and you'll get the depths worked out pretty quickly for "X" amount of line at "X" speed gets "X" depth. I have only played around with anything other than the shallowest setting, that one works fine for me. |
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Location: Bemidji, Lake Vermilion | I have 8. Wouldn't trade them or sell them for the world and don't know anyone else who'd willingly part with theirs either. Supernaturals and Plows = totally different baits. |
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| With 3 line tie positions, there is overlap on the dive curves when factoring in length of line out and boat speed. Supernaturals give me more variables to consider on presentation. You just have to learn em.
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| Thanks for all the replys guys, I originally started with the perch baite by legend and have had some success with that baite. Its got a shake that rivals anything ive seen! So i figured the plow would b a great baite too. Havnt had any luck with it yet but i know it will work when used in right situations. Supernaturals are like a secret society if you ask me!! It pretty weird. |
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| I've got some depth/speed information on these baits on our website for both Legend Plows and Bigwood Supernaturals. Feel free to email me if I can help with any questions on either bait as I use them both. Legends are, well, legendary baits and have been staples especially out east for years. Bigwood Supernaturals are really unique crankbaits that I can honestly say swim like nothing else I've ever seen. They wander and shoot out to the sides in an unpredictable and non mechanical kind of way. You can see some of that in this underwater clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JFxts_7B7I&feature=player_embedded
The Bigwood Supernaturals won't be on sale much longer as my inventory is beginning to get a little thin lately.
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| Supernaturals : 50 feet of 100 pound braid on the shallow setting will get you 12-15 feet max. 3.5mph
The mid setting will gets you an extra 5 feet deep.
Deep setting will get you about 25feet deep.
That said, I only use the shallow settings on mine
Duff will probably jump in here soon and verify that I am wrong 
The difference between a plow or any wide wobble lure and a headlock is huge. The headlocks have a more "vertical" wobble . It is more subtle, but the the line tie makes the lures constantly "search" for center.
Joe
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Location: Hugo, MN | Anybody who does a lot of trolling needs to get a Headlock. There isn't another bait out there that I've seen with the wandering action they have. They're worth every penny. |
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Location: Angola, IN | That video doesn't look like the Supernaturals I got..... |
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Location: Grand Rapids MN | Bigwood Supernaturals and Headlocks are different baits. Headlocks are "plastic" and thinner while Kyle's are wood. Both have a different action as well. |
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Location: Hugo, MN | Bigwoods Supernaturals are similar in profile to the Headlocks, but with thicker bodies. They are wood baits, as are the Headlocks currently. There were some resin Headlocks out there, too. I haven't run the Supernatural, but from what I've been told, it is a little more bouyant and has a little wilder action than the Headlock. |
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| Im a bit confused....Does Bigwood make supernaturals and headlocks? |
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| Bigwood Musky Lures has BIGWOOD supernaturals
Thorne has headlocks
...secret society...? hardly, too much organization
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Location: Apollo, PA | Well, better late than never...... |
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Location: Angola, IN | This is what my supernatural looks like....second from left. Now these are rare and have a cult following perhaps. All those lures were made by Duff and painted by Joe, except the Wishmaster.
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| what is the baite all the way to the right? |
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Location: Apollo, PA | That is the "ghastly" LIpLock |
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Location: Grand Rapids MN | Wishmaster if you don't expand the pic to full size.
I thought it may be an early version of the liplock but don't know for sure... But it's a Duff bait.
BTW, nice collection of trollers Steve! |
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Liplock
Supernatural
Headlock
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| Piledriver-for those keeping track |
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| Yep Piledriver.
Steve- I forgot about those cranks!! Awesome!
Joe
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| SteveHulbert - 8/31/2012 8:10 AM
This is what my supernatural looks like....second from left. Now these are rare and have a cult following perhaps. All those lures were made by Duff and painted by Joe, except the Wishmaster.
yeah and how many fish did you caught on these baits? |
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| Which one is the Piledriver? |
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Location: Grand Rapids MN | Steve H. pic, all the way to the right is the Piledriver. I forgot all about that bait as well. |
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| Looked all over for liplocks online and came up empty, any ideas?
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Location: Grand Rapids MN | You will have to contact Duff directly. Last I talked to him a few places like Thornes had Headlocks, Kyle has the Bigwoods, and if I wanted Liplocks to let him know what I wanted. |
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