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Musky Brian
Posted 7/12/2012 1:38 PM (#570913)
Subject: Outboard Oil...what do you use?





Posts: 1767


Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin
Do you use the specific oil that your engine maker suggests? Yamaha 2M on a VMax, Merc oil for Merc Engines, etc...?

Run a Vmax and the price has increased significantly in the last year or so on Yamaha oil and I hate to be throwing money away for something that may really not be that important..?
jonnysled
Posted 7/12/2012 1:41 PM (#570916 - in reply to #570913)
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Posts: 13688


Location: minocqua, wi.
i'm using the merc oil for the pro-xs which is quite a bit more expensive than the stuff for the opti ...

on so many other things (old race sleds, augers etc...) i used klotz and amsoil with confidence. i'm sure it's something you should be able to consider with confidence. i'm in a 5-year warranty now so will continue paying my mercury union pension-fund priced oil, but i smell what you're steppin' in Brian!!
Guest
Posted 7/12/2012 1:47 PM (#570921 - in reply to #570913)
Subject: RE: Outboard Oil...what do you use?


imo you don't have to run a certain brand for your engine..ie you could run merc oil in your yamaha just fine brian...buy a good brand but you don't need the carton to say yamama...2 strokes are 2 strokes
i have run every brand oil in my yamaha sleds no issues...
Musky Brian
Posted 7/12/2012 1:48 PM (#570922 - in reply to #570916)
Subject: Re: Outboard Oil...what do you use?





Posts: 1767


Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin
yeah what does she run you a jug?

Yamaha stuff went up from 25 to 33$ bucks, I'm certainly not a cheap skate by any means but I see the " other stuff " with the same rating that looks and smells the same which I have used in the past with no issues and one starts to wonder whether they are throwing away money for nothing...

I was thinking about in comparison of the gas we put in our boats, surely that stuff we get in Canada can't be all that great so what's the difference?
jonnysled
Posted 7/12/2012 1:58 PM (#570930 - in reply to #570922)
Subject: Re: Outboard Oil...what do you use?





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Location: minocqua, wi.
if you aren't under a warranty, i'd suggest going to Amsoil ...

mine was ridiculous and more than $33 i think
PANTLEGGER
Posted 7/12/2012 2:54 PM (#570961 - in reply to #570930)
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Posts: 176


Location: Tomahawk, WI
Opti oil by me is over 40 bucks a gallon and thats bulk, bring your own jug.
MuskyNate27
Posted 7/12/2012 3:15 PM (#570975 - in reply to #570961)
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Posts: 293


I wish I could get my opti dfi oil for $33 a gallon!
saint1
Posted 7/12/2012 3:19 PM (#570979 - in reply to #570913)
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Posts: 332


Location: Neenah, WI
I switched over to AMSOIL HP Injector for My Merc 3 years ago , Great Stuff and more reasonable than Merc.Oil


SAINT
Esox-Hunter
Posted 7/12/2012 4:57 PM (#570994 - in reply to #570979)
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Posts: 774


Location: South East Wisconsin
Amsoil
Lone Stone
Posted 7/12/2012 10:39 PM (#571104 - in reply to #570913)
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Posts: 477


Location: Iowa
As soon as I burn up the oil that was in it when I bought it, it will be Amsoil in mine as well. Works great in the sled!
Mikes Extreme
Posted 7/13/2012 8:32 AM (#571177 - in reply to #570979)
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Posts: 2691


Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin
I have been running AMSOIL HP Injector oil in my 1999 Merc 225 OPT for over 9 years now. I have never had that motor in the shop. I run AMSOIL in both my boat motors, engine and gear oil. I also run it in my truck, car, wheeler, chain saws, weed eater, etc. Great oil for everything. It helps I got a sweet connection...LOL
bdog
Posted 7/13/2012 10:03 AM (#571201 - in reply to #571177)
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Posts: 357


Location: Duluth, MN
Amsoil hp injector in my 225 opti, flawless.

Edited by bdog 7/13/2012 10:04 AM
HomeTime
Posted 7/13/2012 2:03 PM (#571274 - in reply to #570921)
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Location: Uxbridge Ontario
Guest - 7/12/2012 2:47 AM

imo you don't have to run a certain brand for your engine..ie you could run merc oil in your yamaha just fine brian...buy a good brand but you don't need the carton to say yamama...2 strokes are 2 strokes
i have run every brand oil in my yamaha sleds no issues...


2 stokes are 2 strokes but you cannot just use any 2 stroke oil in a 2 stroke DFI engine (like an Optimax) for instance. You want to ensure that the oil you run is specifically made for the engine you have. Make sure if you have an Optimax you run a DFI oil (like Amsoil HP injector).

I have a 2011 Merc Opti 225 ProXS and run the amoils HP injector for $29 a gal (or 4Litres) but the Merc Opti oil is about $60 a gal.

Edited by HomeTime 7/13/2012 2:05 PM
jonnysled
Posted 7/13/2012 2:27 PM (#571279 - in reply to #571274)
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Location: minocqua, wi.
HomeTime - 7/13/2012 2:03 PM
I have a 2011 Merc Opti 225 ProXS and run the amoils HP injector for $29 a gal (or 4Litres) but the Merc Opti oil is about $60 a gal.


i haven't read the warranty on the pro-xs yet, but can you void your warranty if you don't use the mercury-approved oil product in it??
Lone Stone
Posted 7/13/2012 3:49 PM (#571296 - in reply to #571279)
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Posts: 477


Location: Iowa
jonnysled - 7/13/2012 2:27 PM

HomeTime - 7/13/2012 2:03 PM
I have a 2011 Merc Opti 225 ProXS and run the amoils HP injector for $29 a gal (or 4Litres) but the Merc Opti oil is about $60 a gal.


i haven't read the warranty on the pro-xs yet, but can you void your warranty if you don't use the mercury-approved oil product in it??






I know there have been issues about this. I'm no law expert, but have been told if you use an oil that meets or exceeds manufacturer specs then you are fine. I don't believe they can MAKE you use their oil (without giving it to you), or deny a warranty claim because of that. But again, I'm not a lawyer.
beerforthemuskygods
Posted 7/13/2012 4:02 PM (#571300 - in reply to #571296)
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Posts: 410


Location: one foot over the line
I was told by an inside source that the Quicksilver DFI oil that i run in my 175 Opti is the same as Merc oil. Also, on the back of the jug it states: "Quicksilver Performance DFI Oil provides warranty protection fo all Mercury and Mariner OptiMax and DFI engines.
Fishkabibble
Posted 7/14/2012 9:48 PM (#571569 - in reply to #570913)
Subject: Re: Outboard Oil...what do you use?




Posts: 40


Location: Straight out from shore!
If it were me and I had a newer two stroke outboard I would go with Amsoil hands down.
Cowboyhannah
Posted 7/14/2012 11:34 PM (#571581 - in reply to #570913)
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Posts: 1460


Location: Kronenwetter, WI
So whats the technical difference between evinrude xd30 xd 50 and xd100? 30 is standard, 50 partly synthetic, and 100 fully synthetic? I run a 200 ficht ho and was told by serviceman to run nothing lower than 50. A gallon runs around $37.
Top H2O
Posted 7/15/2012 1:22 AM (#571587 - in reply to #571581)
Subject: Re: Outboard Oil...what do you use?




Posts: 4080


Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion
Amsoil @ 33.00 per gal. Works well in my 200 VMax
kirkkopplin
Posted 7/15/2012 7:14 AM (#571597 - in reply to #570913)
Subject: RE: Outboard Oil...what do you use?




Posts: 245


Location: Madison
Where can I get amsoil in Madison. I live on the South side so Something close would be nice.

Kirk
Lone Stone
Posted 7/15/2012 7:18 AM (#571599 - in reply to #570913)
Subject: Re: Outboard Oil...what do you use?




Posts: 477


Location: Iowa
NAPA sells it in Iowa. Most bigger farm stores also have it here.
Fishkabibble
Posted 7/16/2012 8:37 AM (#571794 - in reply to #570913)
Subject: Re: Outboard Oil...what do you use?




Posts: 40


Location: Straight out from shore!
How about Mills Fleet Farm? They have it over here in MN.
sworrall
Posted 7/16/2012 1:42 PM (#571887 - in reply to #570913)
Subject: Re: Outboard Oil...what do you use?





Posts: 32935


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
I run TCW3 Wal Mart oil in my 2003 two stroke. Have from day one. No issues.
HomeTime
Posted 7/17/2012 8:45 PM (#572338 - in reply to #571279)
Subject: RE: Outboard Oil...what do you use?





Posts: 247


Location: Uxbridge Ontario
From what I understand, warranty cannot be denied if the the proper grade is used. In the Opti case, it is a full synthetic DFI oil.

Amsoil has a great track record and is an excellent product. I have used their products for close to 10 years now... Mainly for 2 stroke snowmobiles, but I think they really are the ultimate test anyways (high HP, high rpms, high mileage and high hours in wet and cold environement).
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