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Message Subject: The Bob Ellis Classic
Clark A
Posted 6/13/2012 9:51 PM (#565108)
Subject: The Bob Ellis Classic




Posts: 636


Location: Bloomington, MN
This weekend is the "Bob Ellis Classic Muskie Tournament", which is strictly for row trollers, is being held up in the Presque Isle area of northern Wisconsin. My question to MFirsters is...Who actually does this? Most all know about Mr. Gelb and his success with this tactic. I've also known about the "Master of suspended muskie fishing" (per Joe Bucher) in northern Wisconsin..which I agree with, Mr. Bob Ellis, for years. I have yet to attempt the strategies these men have instructed us to do if we want the success they have proved. Miss Patricia Strutz is another row troller that actually does/did guide for muskies with that technique (her web site..ablondandherboat.com) is no longer operational, but she is the lady that started this tribute tournament that has been going on since 2003. Google her, and you will be very impressed with her credentils! Mr. Dave Schnell also needs recognition for this abstract way of putting giant muskies in the boat. He and Bob Ellis made many appearances in the Lakeland Times with their trophys. I guess I'm just looking into another venue/style of Muskie fishing, but this looks right up my alley. I know that this way of wetting a line isn't a positive endorser to companies like Tuffy/Ranger/Mercury, but it appears to be such a peaceful way of obtaining a trophy muskie. Your life expectancy on Minnetonka row trolling would be about 5 minutes, so this technique can't be used on all muskie waters. I have an extreme admiration for wooden boats that has basically put me at "Poverty's" front door, but there are row trollers made of fiberglass/plastic. Any constructive thougths concerning this presentation or tournament results would be appreciated.

Thanks. Clark Anderson
TEAM HOMER FROMBY
Carl's "House of Oars"
Ben-Gay "Not that it is wrong" takes the pain away

Edited by Clark A 6/13/2012 10:25 PM
Guest
Posted 6/13/2012 10:23 PM (#565119 - in reply to #565108)
Subject: RE: The Bob Ellis Classic


Row trolling has saved the day on a number of outings for me in the Presque Isle area. Like most things in Muskie fishing it can be made as simple or sophisticated as you desire. I have been using a 12' aluminum rowboat for years without planer boards and simply flatline trolling cranks and have done quite well in a limited number of hours. Fish seem to like changes in speed and direction. I have caught fish right after hitting the oars really hard for a few strokes and even after stopping to reel in some line then starting to row again and, WHAM FISH ON.
I am sure the boys from Badfish can chime in and give you enough info to keep you busy for a loooooong time.
Ben Olsen
Posted 6/14/2012 6:40 PM (#565296 - in reply to #565108)
Subject: Re: The Bob Ellis Classic


Clark, perhaps a little off topic but if you are interested in building or owning a row troller and supporting a great cause, check out urbanboatbuilders.org. They are out of St Paul and build some amazing boats at great prices! Plus they help inner city and "at risk" youth!
Clark A
Posted 6/14/2012 7:52 PM (#565303 - in reply to #565108)
Subject: Re: The Bob Ellis Classic




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Location: Bloomington, MN
Thanks Ben. Maybe they would consider a 1959 26' Chris Craft Sea Skiff as a trade in!
sworrall
Posted 6/14/2012 8:04 PM (#565308 - in reply to #565303)
Subject: Re: The Bob Ellis Classic





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
A friend stopped in today to get some maps marked up for a week trip while on his way there:
Hand made, and a beauty.


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North of 8
Posted 6/14/2012 8:50 PM (#565318 - in reply to #565308)
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Wow, that is a work of art. Love the variety of wood, as well as the lines and layout.
MD75
Posted 6/14/2012 8:58 PM (#565320 - in reply to #565108)
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Location: Sycamore, IL
Beautiful...thanks for sharing!
Clark A
Posted 6/14/2012 9:00 PM (#565322 - in reply to #565108)
Subject: Re: The Bob Ellis Classic




Posts: 636


Location: Bloomington, MN
I would insist that if anyone would partake in a beverage in that beautiful boat, they must use a coaster! Experiencing the aroma of Old English and muskie slime is on my bucket list! Mr. Worrall, you have some classy friends.

http://row-troller.com/Home_Page.html
honkermusky
Posted 6/14/2012 9:29 PM (#565329 - in reply to #565108)
Subject: Re: The Bob Ellis Classic




Posts: 383


Location: SE Wisc and Vilas County
wow that looks great.

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jonnysled
Posted 6/15/2012 6:40 AM (#565359 - in reply to #565108)
Subject: Re: The Bob Ellis Classic





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Location: minocqua, wi.
that's a peach Clark!!

... give Pete Stoltman a shout at the MuskyShop. there is a Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/pages/Row-Trolling/369775133040597 that keeps the local group connected. if you ever want to get out for a try contact Jason Sloan who has guided row-trolling adventures. i've been out with him and enjoyed it!

... we have a local music talent up here named Tuck Pence that many of you may know or heard at one point in your life, he's a row-troller too.

Edited by jonnysled 6/15/2012 7:19 AM
Mr Musky
Posted 6/15/2012 6:46 AM (#565360 - in reply to #565359)
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Wow that is gorgous! Good luck to all in the outing! I hope to get back into row trolling soon!!
Clark A
Posted 6/15/2012 9:45 AM (#565399 - in reply to #565108)
Subject: Re: The Bob Ellis Classic




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Location: Bloomington, MN
I WISH that were mine Mr. Sled. I do however have a 53 year old 26' hunk of rotting wood with a steering wheel.


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Top H2O
Posted 6/15/2012 10:34 AM (#565410 - in reply to #565399)
Subject: Re: The Bob Ellis Classic




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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion
WOW! WOW!
Now that's what I'm talking about!

Just beautiful.
Ben Olsen
Posted 6/15/2012 2:04 PM (#565468 - in reply to #565108)
Subject: Re: The Bob Ellis Classic


Hey G-rome, lets go in on one of these row trollers and you can row me around Head of Lakes all fall! You can burn off all those calories you take in at the Landing! No room for a heater and a windshield though!?
Peter Stoltman
Posted 6/18/2012 11:21 PM (#566114 - in reply to #565108)
Subject: Re: The Bob Ellis Classic




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Dang, wish I would have caught this post before the tournament. There are actually a good sized group of folks who partake in row trolling. Some of us use restored antique boats (Thompson, Rhinelanders, Penn Yan among others) and those who use modern variations like Dave Schmidt's boat that Steve posted. There is a website available that is a jumping off point for rowing at http://www.row-troller.com/Home_Page.html. This is also the host site for the Bob Ellis Classic. As mentioned, there is an associated Facebook page that can be found here: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Row-Trolling/369775133040597 and is the interactive "partner" to the main website. Row trolling can be a solitary sport and both Tom Gelb and the late Bob Ellis would be good examples of guys who fished primarily solo. Most seem to prefer to fish with one or more partners. This past weekend had several father and son, father and daughter, and husband and wife teams along with just a couple buddies who like to fish together. Some of the appeal of this style aside from the fishing technique itself is the closeness you feel with the environment, the relative silence of a day spent on the water (unless you're in my boat had hear the creak, creak of unlubed oarlocks), and the great sense of camraderie that this relatively small group of fishermen share. We love checking out each others boats, lures, rigging, and general good natured disposition of row trollers. As Jon mentioned there are several of us who guide out of row trollers. Most non-guides are usually pretty decent about introducing an interested individual to the sport too so it may be worth your while to look into doing a few hours to try the sport out before jumping in with both feet. Boats can be as simple as a fiberglass or aluminum sport canoe up to spending thousands of dollars on a custom made new boat or a restored classic. Please feel free to contact me if you have further questions. I'd be happy to answer any questions.

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JKahler
Posted 6/18/2012 11:53 PM (#566120 - in reply to #565108)
Subject: Re: The Bob Ellis Classic




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Location: WI
Too cool. I would definately like to try that sometime. I've used my canoe, but it was too slow with just a paddle.
sworrall
Posted 6/19/2012 8:23 AM (#566146 - in reply to #565108)
Subject: Re: The Bob Ellis Classic





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Great images and information, thanks Pete.
Sam Ubl
Posted 6/20/2012 9:28 AM (#566436 - in reply to #565108)
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Location: SE Wisconsin
My Dad fished this last weekend. Said it was a blast and learned a lot.
NCmusky
Posted 6/20/2012 9:58 AM (#566444 - in reply to #565108)
Subject: RE: The Bob Ellis Classic




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WOW!! Beautiful boats and a great topic. I built a wooden boat this past fall with some muskie rowtrolling in mind, as well as just taking the wife and kids out! 

Boy, after rowing a few hours I have a real appreciation for those who do this. I still haven't got one yet, but working on getting in shape to be able to do this all day. I would love to attend this event to learn some tricks from those with more experience, but NC is pretty far.

Pete, I see some of those boats are "dory" type boats, do rowtrollers feel this allows for easier trolling on their bodies? Curious because thinking of building another specifically for row trolling. Thanks and here's some pics of my 12ft skiff row boat!

 Derek

 



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muskie! nut
Posted 6/20/2012 10:07 AM (#566447 - in reply to #565108)
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Location: Yahara River Chain
Derek, i would think that the "dory" style would track better than the others ones. I know its not fun being the one in the back of those wine glass end as the leg room is very limited.
Guest
Posted 6/20/2012 3:41 PM (#566495 - in reply to #565108)
Subject: RE: The Bob Ellis Classic


Were there any fish caught? If so, what size were they?
muskie! nut
Posted 6/20/2012 4:01 PM (#566496 - in reply to #565108)
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Location: Yahara River Chain
From Geoff Crandall (who attended):
Had fun at the Ellis outing last weekend- 5 were caught (biggest was a 41 and then mid-upper 30’s) and a good time was had by all.

He also sent some photos as well. Enjoy!

I also singled out the "Crandallman" from the group photo in the last pic.



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Peter Stoltman
Posted 6/21/2012 6:57 AM (#566622 - in reply to #565108)
Subject: Re: The Bob Ellis Classic




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Just about anything can be used for row trolling but round bottoms with keels seem to track better. It also tends to glide easier with less effort on the part of the rower. I know NC is a good poke from northern Wisconsin but you've got time to plan. There is a couple who have attended the last two years from Colorado.
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