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| I was the "guest" posts, just wrote everything before signing in and trying to multi-task posting and chasing the kids around the house...
This will be another stellar season on LSC. We've got some of the best trollers who have catch rates that are mind blowing. Woodie is also right!! What MOMC has done over the decades for the GLS Muskie is really the heroes of LSC! No longer the days with clubs, handguns and spearing these fish. MOMC needs no introduction for any diehard Muskie Angler but although I'm not a troller (caster/jigger only) I'm proud to fish the same waters with a Conservation Club (not just fishing club) who has done so much for this fishery!
Michigan Muskie fishing has also improved due to MMA Chapter #47 as well. We are on the verge of seeing new regulations for our Muskie and these two clubs are the real heroes. Most times it's better to remember where our sport has come from and where it's heading than rather worry about who's the new "hottest" guys guiding. You want to learn LSC? Either commit and put your time in through trial and error or choose one of the long time MOMC charter guides, casting/jigging guides who have most likely spent more time on LSC than dry land. These guys actually know the lake, entire system well. The best fishermen I know are the ones who "quietly" fish. Oh and it's cool to not know anything...Going on 5 years on dedicating myself strictly to LSC Muskie and there's many days I feel like I have no idea what to do. It's okay to admit that these fish get the best of me at times... Muskie's don't care about ego's.... |
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| many dont realize. with the laws in effect now guides wanting to fish canadian water the passport issues and calling in will definatly hamper efforts. that issue alone is unsettled. 2/3 of st clair is canadian waters.. someone will lose their boat before the years out. |
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Location: Michigan | If you are thinking about St. Clair, it would be advised that you take this very seriously. The Canadian authorities are cracking down. This is the law Woodieb8 is referring to... If you plan to fish in Canada, it may just be easier to launch in Canada... Whatever you do, do not cross the line... This is beyond comprehension... Talk about a kick in the teeth...
http://www.cbsa.gc.ca/media/facts-faits/096-eng.html |
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| Chasin50's right.... For those not into "complicated" fishing, LSC could be a confusing hassle. Regs have changed and the international waterway is becoming a nightmare to fish Muskie with seasonal/daily movement. Enjoyment on this system has become a big pain in the butt! I'm not looking forward to the changes at all!! |
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| Lake St Clair Eh, Here Ya Go.
2 days ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma0DxoABBks
not long ago either
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Location: Detroit River | Guest - 4/29/2012 8:29 AM
Guides like Jon have pioneered techniques on this system and although it's his business, Jon is not one I would consider exploiting LSC. I actually think he doesn't get mentiioned enough by other guides who have started to guide here, taking what Jon learned over 20+ years, film locations with little caution in the background and then never mention the Bondy Bait or Jon when they jig up fish after fish in areas Jon discovered long time ago. There's some long time guides on this system and they aren't the problem. It's the couple that decide to move in and after a few sessons get their license and pimp information from some of the guides and locals then go out, have some success and whore out every possible option to create a buzz about their service. Ive witnessed and seen the phone calls come in from some of the newer guides over the years desperately trying to pimp information because their struggling to connect with fish. Now you hear how great they are.....
It's a great system and a big one at that! Put your time in and you'll boat big fish. Or to cut the learning curve down a bit hire someone like Jon who has fished this system all his life to help you better understand this unique body of water. The fly by night guides will come and go, squeeze everything they can out of it before they move on again to new water after exploiting a lake that sometimes fishes small for such a big system. There's fish everywhere and can be caught from opener to close. Part of the fun is fishing new water and putting the pieces of the puzzle together! I've been putting in 100's of hours of fishing over the years and learn something new every year about this system. My first years fishing were trial and error and countless fishless days trying to learn on my own and it's paid off plus I can take pride knowing I wasn't one of the guys always trying to ask for information. It's that much sweeter when you land that fish!!
I couldn't agree more. Well said.
When I watched the fishing shows that filmed on the LSC system last year and watched them catching fish after fish on the Bondy Bait & not hear one mention of Jon or mention of the Bondy Bait it peeed me off. It made me realize even more of how full of chit most of these fishing shows are & what phonies some of these guys are.
As for the fly by night guides coming to LSC, most of them don't even bother to get fully licensed to guide.
4 or 5 years ago I could fish my favorite casting spot for musky on LSC & not have another musky boat near me. Now I have to get to that spot early else I’m SOL. Even when I get there early other guys will still cut me off to get ahead of me. A couple of fishing shows shot in that location a couple of years ago & now that spot is even worse.
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Location: Detroit River | detroithardcore - 5/1/2012 11:06 PM
Chasin50's right.... For those not into "complicated" fishing, LSC could be a confusing hassle. Regs have changed and the international waterway is becoming a nightmare to fish Muskie with seasonal/daily movement. Enjoyment on this system has become a big pain in the butt! I'm not looking forward to the changes at all!!
Calling in is easier than people have been making it out to be. I've done it several times now on the Detroit River & everything went smooth. The first time takes the longest but once you info is in the system it only takes a couple of minutes because they already have your boat info & the boat owners info. Then they only need the info of your passengers if they haven't been with you in Canadian waters before. Then they ask the standard questions & give you your confirmation number. Calling in is a LOT easier that tailoring your boat across the border. |
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| Zib I understand what you are saying but you have to keep in mind that on that TV show they are getting paid big dollars from 6-8 different tackle companies to use there products. They are under contract with these companies to use there products. We actually broke the rule in order to use the baits that one day the fish went deep. We did not mention we where using them because that would of been a big breach of contract. However hopefully the coverage will help him out with sales anyway. |
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| SpencerBerman - 5/10/2012 2:54 PM
Zib I understand what you are saying but you have to keep in mind that on that TV show they are getting paid big dollars from 6-8 different tackle companies to use there products. They are under contract with these companies to use there products. We actually broke the rule in order to use the baits that one day the fish went deep. We did not mention we where using them because that would of been a big breach of contract. However hopefully the coverage will help him out with sales anyway.
Big dollars in the muskie world, ha, you must be dreamin, kid! |
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| The big money is in catfishin'. |
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| Bondy - 5/10/2012 3:43 PM
The big money is in catfishin'.
You mean that noodlin thing where they stick there hands in the catfishes mouth? |
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| $10,000 to $12,000 seems like a fair amount of money to me but the actual dollar value was far from the point I was trying to make. |
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| Thanks guys....As for the baits not being mentioned...I never saw the shows, but heard from alot of people about it, which tells me the bait is already well known or I wouldn't have heard a thing. As for other guides...I just take life one day at a time and I don't get worked up about much....Jon
PS...The mold for the Bondy Bait 'Magnum' size is about to be cut any day. |
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| The key word is CONTRACT. These shows have CONTRACTS with bait companies stating they will endorse their baits and use them on the show. If they endorse other baits, such as the bondy, that would breach the CONTRACT and they would likely lose all money from their bait company sponsors. The shows may not be big business but they are still a business and have the obligation to uphold their CONTRACT. |
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| Bondy - 5/10/2012 8:59 PM
Thanks guys....As for the baits not being mentioned...I never saw the shows, but heard from alot of people about it, which tells me the bait is already well known or I wouldn't have heard a thing. As for other guides...I just take life one day at a time and I don't get worked up about much....Jon
PS...The mold for the Bondy Bait 'Magnum' size is about to be cut any day.
MAGNUM sounds AWESOME! Can't wait! |
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| Bring on the Magnum Jon!!! My mouth and I'm sure the LSC Spotty's mouth is foaming!!!! Can't wait for this bait!! Will it be avaialable before the opener?? |
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| That is the plan... |
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Location: Minnesota | ill take one in pearl |
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Location: Detroit River | Bondy - 5/10/2012 9:59 PM
Thanks guys....As for the baits not being mentioned...I never saw the shows, but heard from alot of people about it, which tells me the bait is already well known or I wouldn't have heard a thing. As for other guides...I just take life one day at a time and I don't get worked up about much....Jon
PS...The mold for the Bondy Bait 'Magnum' size is about to be cut any day.
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| Muskiemagnet, if you are going there for multiple days and still want to try to fly fish for musky don't rule that out. I only fly fish and though we may not get nearly as many hookups there are still days will multiple hookups and days with many fish moved. Obviously it can be much more work and not as many results but very rewarding when you do finally get one.
PM me before you go and if you want to try throwing flies I may be able to give you a little info to get you in the write direction or if I am around at the time I may be able to take you out. |
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| thanks, but I sold my fly gear last year because I've been 100% committed to muskies, and just hadn't had the desire. quite honestly, casting a heavier bait with my TE and Tranx is a lot more rewarding. That's just my opinion, and thanks again for reaching out. |
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